- Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:57 am
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Maybe you can use your magical powers to make it so I don't need a terrarium
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95slvrZ28 wrote:Maybe you can use your magical powers to make it so I don't need a terrariumSteve_D is actually trying his hand at growing Heliamphora without a terrarium and it's going well so far. I had my H. nutans growing under lights without a terrarium for about a month and it did fine. Though I'm not that experienced with them, I'd bet you can grow them without a terrarium if you're careful about how hot you let them get and you don't let them get dried out too much by wind.
Matt wrote:Steve_D is actually trying his hand at growing Heliamphora without a terrarium and it's going well so far.Details Matt, Details! I wanna grow a Heli but as you know I'm pretty much afraid too. What kinda do you think I should start with?
Matt wrote:Well, since they would be indoor plants I don't have to worry about the wind. What temps do they like (listen to me...I can barely keep VFTs alive, LOL)95slvrZ28 wrote:Maybe you can use your magical powers to make it so I don't need a terrariumSteve_D is actually trying his hand at growing Heliamphora without a terrarium and it's going well so far. I had my H. nutans growing under lights without a terrarium for about a month and it did fine. Though I'm not that experienced with them, I'd bet you can grow them without a terrarium if you're careful about how hot you let them get and you don't let them get dried out too much by wind.
allenc666 wrote:Both Steve and I got an H. nutans to start with. I think that they're relatively easy to grow, though I haven't had it long enough to say for sure. When I got it, it was already potted. I immediately unpotted it and put it in a larger, deeper pot. Then I stuck it under fluorescent lights in my grow rack where the high temperature was up into the mid 80s°F during the day and down into the upper 50°F at night. Relative humidity was between 35% and 50%. The plant didn't do too much the first week after the repot. A couple of the older pitchers turned brown, but that's about it. Within a week I could see new growth though. Then after about three weeks, it put out a very large pitcher. I foliar fertilized it once (very lightly) with Better Gro Orchid Plus 20-14-13 sometime around the second week. Then after four weeks under the lights, it started putting out a lot of new growth.Matt wrote:Steve_D is actually trying his hand at growing Heliamphora without a terrarium and it's going well so far.Details Matt, Details! I wanna grow a Heli but as you know I'm pretty much afraid too. What kinda do you think I should start with?
95slvrZ28 wrote:Well, since they would be indoor plants I don't have to worry about the wind. What temps do they like (listen to me...I can barely keep VFTs alive, LOL)I think this might be the most important part of keeping them healthy, more so than the humidity. Everything I've read indicates that they thrive from a drop in temperature at night time. Luckily where I live now, even during the heat of the summer when the days are up over 100°F, the nights still get down into the low 60s°F or upper 50s°F. If you can't provide cooler nights down into the 60s°F, the plant will likely struggle. Again, I haven't grown them long enough to know this for a fact, but that's what I've read. I've also read that they won't form pitchers if the humidity is below 70%, which I've found out isn't true, so maybe the temperature drop isn't as important as some people say. Once I grow these guys a couple of years, I'll have a better idea of their limitations.
95slvrZ28 wrote:if you ever want to "sacrafice" an H. Minor to CO let me knowI'll do that! Yes, Boulder gets pretty cool, even in the summer. If you have air conditioning (we didn't when we lived there), you can probably cool it off inside quicker. I'm having flashbacks of lying in bed and sweating until midnight...
kittyklaws wrote:ha, I'm sure everyone would want a piece of Matt's helis now!lol. i think your right.
Matt wrote:We don't have AC, but our house usually stays cool due to the massive amounts of trees surrounding most of it. Although I just realized it's often because we have the windows open, which would generate a dry breeze. haha, hmm...oh well, guess that's what experiments are for right?95slvrZ28 wrote:if you ever want to "sacrafice" an H. Minor to CO let me knowI'll do that! Yes, Boulder gets pretty cool, even in the summer. If you have air conditioning (we didn't when we lived there), you can probably cool it off inside quicker. I'm having flashbacks of lying in bed and sweating until midnight...
95slvrZ28 wrote:I just realized it's often because we have the windows open, which would generate a dry breeze. haha, hmm...oh well, guess that's what experiments are for right?Hah, yep, for sure. It would be great to find out the limitations of Heliamphora, especially in terms of humidity. Their life on the tepuis is subject to very changeable weather, so they may be hardier than people give them credit for (at least certain species). Finding the point at which they suffer from lack of humidity would be interesting.
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