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By Leathal_Traps
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I do not recommend using a chest freezer unless you want to grow few and slow growing plants. Here is a very good article on how to convert a chest freezer into a chamber if you decide to do it. It's quite simple. Just take off lid, and thermostat and you're done

http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn/ar ... p20_23.pdf
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By tannerm
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Leathal_Traps wrote:I do not recommend using a chest freezer unless you want to grow few and slow growing plants. Here is a very good article on how to convert a chest freezer into a chamber if you decide to do it. It's quite simple. Just take off lid, and thermostat and you're done

http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn/ar ... p20_23.pdf
Really? Brad is a pretty great grower. Also, seems like airflow is important what about a fogger and fans?


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By Leathal_Traps
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It's a great way to grow slow growing species like villosa and rajah, but if you plan to have some of the faster growing highlanders such as jamban and hamata, they will inevitably outgrow the freezer quite quickly.

Yes air flow is always important, so you should always have a small computer fan blowing air around. Some people get away with not using a fogger by always having water at the bottom of the freezer. If you do buy a freezer, experiment and see what humidity levels are like without a fogger, and if they are too low you can always purchase one later.
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By tannerm
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Leathal_Traps wrote:It's a great way to grow slow growing species like villosa and rajah, but if you plan to have some of the faster growing highlanders such as jamban and hamata, they will inevitably outgrow the freezer quite quickly.

Yes air flow is always important, so you should always have a small computer fan blowing air around. Some people get away with not using a fogger by always having water at the bottom of the freezer. If you do buy a freezer, experiment and see what humidity levels are like without a fogger, and if they are too low you can always purchase one later.
No. This would only be for ultra highlanders. Both rajah and jamban are classified as just highlanders. I wanted to get my hands on Villosa (mostly), dubia, edwardsiania, and mikei :)


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By tannerm
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Leathal_Traps wrote:Villosa and dubia need UHL but edwardsiana most certainly does not. Not sure about mikei
I thought eddie was a UH?


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By Leathal_Traps
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tannerm wrote:
Leathal_Traps wrote:Villosa and dubia need UHL but edwardsiana most certainly does not. Not sure about mikei
I thought eddie was a UH?


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Nah. Just because it's upper altitudanal range is UHL doesn't necessarily mean it has to be grown as a UHL. If you do grow it as UHL, it slows down in growth compared to when its grown as a HL
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By tannerm
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Leathal_Traps wrote:
tannerm wrote:
Leathal_Traps wrote:Villosa and dubia need UHL but edwardsiana most certainly does not. Not sure about mikei
I thought eddie was a UH?


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Nah. Just because it's upper altitudanal range is UHL doesn't necessarily mean it has to be grown as a UHL. If you do grow it as UHL, it slows down in growth compared to when its grown as a HL
I wouldn't want that! Okay, so which one(s) definitively need it out of my list then? Just villosa and dubia?


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By Benurmanii
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I've stopped using the altitude chart because it is no help when it comes to plants that grow on a vast range. The eddies in cultivation seem to do best in an intermediate setting, as the original plants and seeds were likely collected from their lower ranges. There are also highland and a slightly intermediate variety of dubia in cultivation. I would not consider dubia an ultrahighlander.

Another thing to consider with that chart. See how singalana is listed as an ultrahighlander? Many wouldn't even think of growing it as such. It grows as a typical highlander/intermediate. The height at which the plant grows does not determine the same temperature for every mountain, and it doesn't always determine the habit of the plants that are in cultivation.
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By tannerm
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Benurmanii wrote:I've stopped using the altitude chart because it is no help when it comes to plants that grow on a vast range. The eddies in cultivation seem to do best in an intermediate setting, as the original plants and seeds were likely collected from their lower ranges. There are also highland and a slightly intermediate variety of dubia in cultivation. I would not consider dubia an ultrahighlander.

Another thing to consider with that chart. See how singalana is listed as an ultrahighlander? Many wouldn't even think of growing it as such. It grows as a typical highlander/intermediate. The height at which the plant grows does not determine the same temperature for every mountain, and it doesn't always determine the habit of the plants that are in cultivation.
ugh. Is there a more up-to-date chart with growing conditions? I THOUGHT that one was helpful haha


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By Benurmanii
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tannerm wrote:
Benurmanii wrote:I've stopped using the altitude chart because it is no help when it comes to plants that grow on a vast range. The eddies in cultivation seem to do best in an intermediate setting, as the original plants and seeds were likely collected from their lower ranges. There are also highland and a slightly intermediate variety of dubia in cultivation. I would not consider dubia an ultrahighlander.

Another thing to consider with that chart. See how singalana is listed as an ultrahighlander? Many wouldn't even think of growing it as such. It grows as a typical highlander/intermediate. The height at which the plant grows does not determine the same temperature for every mountain, and it doesn't always determine the habit of the plants that are in cultivation.
ugh. Is there a more up-to-date chart with growing conditions? I THOUGHT that one was helpful haha


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I explained that altitude charts are not a fully accurate ways to know a plant's preferred temperature parameters.. Just look up the plant online and scrap together info on its habits.

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