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By Intheswamp
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I got some of the bonus "Complex Nep Cross" seeds from the seed bank that I'm going to be planting today or tomorrow and naturally I've got questions. :mrgreen:

My options for media are live sphagnum moss, dried LFSM, and a peat moss and perlite mix.

I would like to use the live sphagnum but how would I do that? Should I simply squeeze out the moss till it's damp, sprinkle the seeds on the surface, mist well, and bag?

I've seen mention of using dried "milled" LFSM. Would filling a pot mostly full with unmilled LFSM and finishing the top 1/2" or so be good enough? My hesitation here is that when I've milled the dried sphagnum in the past and used it on top of a peat/perlite mix it seems to stay "separate" from the peat and perlite...and if allowed to get a little dry it forms a "plate" that can be lifted. :? I know...don't let it dry out. But, it just doesn't seem to make a homogenous mixture.

For a pot, I'm thinking of using a food container that is only about 2-3/4" deep but is 8"x7" in area dimensions so I could spread them out good. Would 2-3/4" be deep enough? It seems that the neps grow *sloooowwww*. :?:

Feedback is very much appreciated as this sounds like a long-term commitment :shock: .
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Skip the live moss for seedlings. It will rapidly outgrow and smother them. I've had good success will the pest/perlite topped with mild sphagnum. Once they are a couple of inches across I repot to a more nep friendly medium.
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Thanks Panman! That sounds much simpler than what I was imagining...but I *am* OCD-Me. :lol: As slow as they grow, do you think the 2-3/4" deep container will be ok? My wonderful, beautiful wife is bringing home some distilled water this evening from Wallyworld, so I'll hopefully plant them in the morning.
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They will be fine in that size for a while. Particularly if they are not in the sun. I had seedlings outside in the shade in that size pot and they did great until I let it dry out.
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Hmm, the thought of drying out hadn't really dawned on me. A deeper pot with more water storage has it's benefits.
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I had success with my first batch of seeds by boiling LFSM and running it through my food processor, then using that as a medium. I had a 14% germination rate. I saw the first seedling after four months. My second batch isn’t so quick, they’re on week number five.
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I am hoping this is a sprout developing on my second batch, but it has that moldy green look to it.
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Did you mean that on your first batch that you had seedlings after 4 *weeks* rather than 4 *months*?

The green spot in the photo looks like it does have some form/shape to it...similar to images I've seen of *very* young nep seedlings. But, the power of suggestion can be strong. ;) Maybe it's a nep, though!!!! :D
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Intheswamp wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:46 pm Did you mean that on your first batch that you had seedlings after 4 *weeks* rather than 4 *months*?

The green spot in the photo looks like it does have some form/shape to it...similar to images I've seen of *very* young nep seedlings. But, the power of suggestion can be strong. ;) Maybe it's a nep, though!!!! :D
Yes, my first batch of seedlings germinated after 4 weeks. Sorry about that, and the second batch/variety has been brewing for 5.

I am so hoping that it is a nep and not a mass of mold.

I’ve crossed my fingers that your seeds are on their way to a bright and balmy future,
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I have 1 Nep seedling from the Seed Bank that is showing promise. I have about ten seeds in 3 separate pods of a 12 pod seed tray. I am thinking of pulling it out in hopes others will come up also. The other 9 pods each have Sarrs in them and most are coming up fairly well. So much so that I think it is time to get some out so as not to strangle any others off. These are al seeds I received from @Panman and they seem to be doing well.
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Intheswamp wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:53 pm I got some of the bonus "Complex Nep Cross" seeds from the seed bank that I'm going to be planting <snip>...
Well, it's been over 13 weeks since I planted the nep seeds...and there's no sign of life. Should I hang this up to a <cough, cough> failure?
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my next cross's flower i am sending in is almost done cooking. If you look at the photo some of the pods never developed from not being pollinated, i hope that means it fertile.

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If I'm seeing what you're talking about then it looks like you will get a good load of seeds from that stalk!!! :D
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Yup! That's what I was thinking you were talking about. Thanks for confirming that for me!

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