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Like others have said, some traits appear sporadically, I guess it's for people to determine if it appears frequently enough to be worthwhile. If not one could always breed it and try to isolate the trait In an improved variety.


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Matt wrote:

Anymal911 wrote:SEASONS, not years... It probably loses its shape in the fall, and gains it back in the spring... I'm just suggesting he should wait, especially if nobody on here has any experience with this particular cultivar before...

Still, is it fair to ask for a refund after SEASONS with the plant? And that's just speculation. The description should really give more detail about the plant, like when to expect the arced traps, if the trait isn't shown all the time.

I'm just saying, if he actually decides to keep the plant and not send it back, he should observe it for a while before drawing conclusions... I never said he shouldn't send it back...

you know even if it throws up just a few super arched traps per year it will be good enough for me.

katya_dog1 wrote:I originally thought filiformis referred to a form of plant, see here http://cpphotofinder.com/dionaea-muscip ... -2138.html

Obviously I was wrong.

Yeah, Ive seen this link before and thought that's what the "filiformis" VFT looked like (really long petioles).

I'd love to find a plant that had arches so pronounced like that all the time or at least did it on a seasonal basis. FTS Archangel is the best so far and it has the ability to turn dark red in the fall so, it is a really pretty and awesome plant. Definitely one of my favorite newly named plants.

I have seen quite a few other clones put out the occasional trap like this but never any this pronounced and none that happened more than just 1-2 times which is a random fluke.

My pot of super red FTS Archangel

Very nice, Mike! My FTS Etna puts out the occasional arched trap, but not quite as much as your FTS Archangel.

mdeford09 wrote:I'd love to find a plant that had arches so pronounced like that all the time or at least did it on a seasonal basis.

Me too. If you find one, please let me know!

mdeford09 wrote:FTS Archangel is the best so far and it has the ability to turn dark red in the fall so, it is a really pretty and awesome plant. Definitely one of my favorite newly named plants.

Yeah, FTS Archangel is the plant I've grown (and seen in photos) with the most consistently arced traps. But even it, when it gets sufficiently large, won't always show arcing on the traps. But it's still better at producing arced traps than any other plant I've grown.

yeah I have also noticed that the larger plants don't get as red either. But, that is fairly common with nearly all red flytraps.

I have one that is most certainly premium sized and it is much more green and the arches are no where near as pronounced as that pot of younger divisions. I'll take a picture of it tonight. Sadly though it is no where near as pretty as it is starting to lose its upright growth for the fall prostrate growth.

mdeford09 wrote:yeah I have also noticed that the larger plants don't get as red either. But, that is fairly common with nearly all red flytraps.

Very true.

Now, what if we took Archangel and crossed it with Filiformis and Maroon Monster... Hmm...

I emailed the vendor and here was their response:

Hey,

Looks like you ordered it already and I shipped it out this morning

Filiformis is a really unique trap although at times it can look fairly typical. We have some huge ones and some that are more coiled up and probably ready for new pots. I shipped you one of the ones with more arc in the traps.

The trait is stable, this is the 3rd season I have had them and every year I notice the same metamorphosis take place. In the spring, traps shoot straight up, rather quickly and can reach exceptional heights. During that time the actual trap appears limp and dangle a bit. Eventually the trap sorts itself out and begins to open in which fused cilia are very common.

These cilia eventually unwind and you are left with an extra tall slip trap with average color. Very similar to king henry except the stems are much taller.

As the season progresses most traps begin to grow a bit lower and as filimormis grows lower, the mouths deepen up in color and heavy arcs are very common. The picture is not a random trap that had some nice arc. A nice sunny spot with a low angle of sun seems to do the trick to get them to arc even more.

Anyway, I shipped you one that is slightly larger than what is pictured, I would expect a Monday delivery.

Let me know how it does.

Thanks!

~Mike

Let us know if you need any further assistance.

I'd love to see more Archangel pics! Mine is still pretty small...


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I always thought the Latin name "filiformis" was reserved for plants that had long threadlike leaves or something reminiscent of a thread or a filament...

Morpheus wrote:I always thought the Latin name "filiformis" was reserved for plants that had long threadlike leaves or something reminiscent of a thread or a filament...

Same. The name made absolutely no sense to me until SEWinanas posted the email she got from Mike, where he says in the spring the plant gets very tall (and I suppose they are thin as well).

Still, it's supposed to be a form, I think.

Yeah, this would probably be a more fitting name for Korean Melody Sharks and their spaghetti petioles or something...