Unknown Sarr flower

Unknown Sarr flower#449763

By Gary -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:08 am
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:08 am #449763

Hi all, I got this guy from CalCarn's year-end rhizome sale. The flower isn't fully opened yet (I think) but hopefully someone can help with the ID. I'm guessing a flava? TIA

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449765

By cpgrower126 -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:11 am
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:11 am #449765

I agree, likely flava. Tried to get my hands on some of the rhizomes, but within 24 hours; was sold out. CalCarn's a pretty good cp company. I ordered many plants from them.

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449776

By Gary -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:11 am
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:11 am #449776

I seemed to recall a vid on CalCarn comparing flava and oreophila. Flavas are definitely more yellow, both pitchers and flowers. After taking a closer look, I'm leaning towards oreophila.

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449778

By ChefDean -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:33 am
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:33 am #449778

Likely flava. If you bought it from CalCarn, and you don't live in California, they wouldn't sell you an oreophila as it would be illegal unless it was an extra that they threw in.

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Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449789

By Gary -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:57 pm
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:57 pm #449789

I ran into sales restrictions once before when trying to place an order with a grower in the Midwest. I live in AZ, are oreophila considered to be invasive? Learn something new every day!

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449790

By Panman -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:11 pm
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:11 pm #449790

No, oreophila are an endangered species and cannot be sold across state lines due to CITES restrictions.

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Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449792

By Gary -  Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm
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- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm #449792

Makes sense. I did find that it's critically endangered, and that several of it's habitats have been acquired by conservation groups to help protect them.

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449803

By MikeB -  Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:27 am
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- Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:27 am #449803

Put your nose up the flower and take a good sniff. Sarracenia flava flowers have a "unique" smell. To my nose, they smell like wet cat. Other people say they smell like cat pee. When you're in a big field of flava's in bloom, it's overwhelming.

This could be a flava x oreophila hybrid.

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449804

By Gary -  Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:21 am
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- Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:21 am #449804

Panman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:11 pm No, oreophila are an endangered species and cannot be sold across state lines due to CITES restrictions.

I checked on the CalCarn site to see if they might have accidentally sent me an oreophila by mistake (and looked up their vids again for flower comparison), and it turns out they have a permit to ship oreophila across state lines. So could be oreophila, I suppose...

"California Carnivores can ship this plant outside of California as per Permit Number ESPER0002076"

As far as the odor of that flower goes, I honestly can't smell anything but my nose doesn't work too well sometimes.

Re: Unknown Sarr flower#449821

By andynorth -  Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:45 pm
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- Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:45 pm #449821

Panman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:11 pm No, oreophila are an endangered species and cannot be sold across state lines due to CITES restrictions.

I bought 3, 1 of each endangered species from Matt as he has paperwork, which copies were sent along with plants.

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