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By Dionae
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Baby traps are doing great. Put them under 3 2ft t5 bulbs. 2 10000k and 1 6500k. Also have a D. Venusta and D. Capensis in the terrarium with them. I don't have a top on this one so it stays at room humidity. My Drosera looked rough when they got here but are bouncing back nicely.

Still using my HPS but on my other terrarium with the Ceph, Sarr and Nep. They're on 24 hour lighting too atm but i'm going to add a timer to it tonight and let those get sleep.
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By Sky924
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24 hr photo period may be good for experiments,, But these plants are adapted to natural cycles of light and dark, the so called "rest" period is all chemical... The "light reaction" and the "dark reaction" phases of photosynthesis are just phases,, the dark reaction part only means it does not require light,, It will take place with or without . You put a plant ANY plant on a 24 hrs light cycle and you will kill it. NOT because the plant needs a so called "rest" But because a plant responds to light on a chemical basis. And in time an imbalance will happen. And such plant will die.
By Dionae
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Thanks for your input but I totally disagree with this.
You put a plant ANY plant on a 24 hrs light cycle and you will kill it.
I'm going to keep the VFTs on 24 hour lighting. I'm seeing no ill effects so far but if I do i'll give them a dark period. Thanks for stopping by:).
By dantt99
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Sky, I also have to disagree with you. Putting little seedlings under a 24 hour photoperiod isn't going to kill it.
Yes, eventually they will have to slowly be adapted to a normal photoperiod, but for now they should be fine.

As long as once they get a little bigger, they are slowly acclimated to a shorter period, they should live fine.
By Dionae
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VFTs and Sundews are doing great. The sundews grow fast...really wasn't expecting that. D. Venusta is already catching fungus knats. I wasn't expecting the baby VFT roots to be so long either. Transplanted some more today and was shocked at how far down I had to dig to get all of the roots. Guess thats why people suggest a large pot. No signs of stress on anything that I can tell from the constant lighting.

Btw, found a spot in KY where dews grow wild :mrgreen: ! Going to go there in the spring with the camera.
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By Sky924
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I could be wrong...it just seems to me that there is a LOT of talk about VFT's need a dormancy perioid to thrive long term. 24 hr photo periods may be good for "regular growth" But how are you going to handle domancy with a 24 hr phto period? If one is planning to skip dormancy,, then my point is mute. 24 hrs phto period seems to work well with seedlings and all, But sooner or later such plants will Grow up. And when they are grown up, at least from what i have been told on this site, they will require a dormancy period for if they are going lvie more than a few years.
I did a post about skipping dornancy... if it was possible to do it if the plants had the light and temp they required to grow fast and strong. And every reply gave me some info on why they need to go dormant from being sleepy to hibernating like a bear. A 24hr phto period seems to violate all have been told about VFT's on thi site and their growth cycles. Please keep me up to date on your progress,, I have a few Metal halide lights gathering dust that i onced used for salt water tanks. And they are itching to shine.
By dantt99
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Sky924 wrote:I could be wrong...it just seems to me that there is a LOT of talk about VFT's need a dormancy perioid to thrive long term. 24 hr photo periods may be good for "regular growth" But how are you going to handle domancy with a 24 hr phto period? If one is planning to skip dormancy,, then my point is mute. 24 hrs phto period seems to work well with seedlings and all, But sooner or later such plants will Grow up. And when they are grown up, at least from what i have been told on this site, they will require a dormancy period for if they are going lvie more than a few years.
I did a post about skipping dornancy... if it was possible to do it if the plants had the light and temp they required to grow fast and strong. And every reply gave me some info on why they need to go dormant from being sleepy to hibernating like a bear. A 24hr phto period seems to violate all have been told about VFT's on thi site and their growth cycles. Please keep me up to date on your progress,, I have a few Metal halide lights gathering dust that i onced used for salt water tanks. And they are itching to shine.
I am pretty sure he is going to pull them out of that 24 hour photoperiod before it is too late. He is obviously skipping this dormancy since it is already halfway thru dormancy. I am sure he will pull them out before next year.
By Dionae
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I'm probably going to skip this year and maybe next year too depending on how big they get. You're right Sky, in a way, though. Plants won't go through certain cycles or produce certain chemicals/hormones that allow them to flower under 24 hour lighting. It's probably not good for them in the long run but I don't plan to keep them under 24 hour lighting their whole life. Just while they're babies. Thank you very much for stopping by and I hope you stick around and watch the plants progress.
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By Dionae
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Baby Teeth everywhere!!!
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By Dionae
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Dew, 24 hours a day :D .
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By Dionae
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I bought a VFT a couple of weeks ago and decided to let it come out of dormancy so I can have something to look at. Threw it in the 24 hour terrarium and now it has a flower stalk growing. So, I guess 24 hour lighting doesn't bother a VFTs flowering...weird. I'll post pics in a lil while.

I'm going to take her and flood her with light. Going to put her under a 250w HPS to help those flowers out a lil:).
By Daniel_G
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Hahahaha Not happy with the plants you have already so you go and grab a VFT and stick in in with 'em....OK :lol: Maybe you should use this procedure to get flowers and seeds?
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By Dionae
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Heres the flower stalk. Idk if it looks healthy or not but its def growing. I was sure this thing would never flower under 24 hour lighting. Guess i'll make a few seeds and put her under stronger light to help with the process. probably take her out of 24 hour lighting and shorten her photoperiod.
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