mcgrumpers wrote:I have neither but am curious about Eden black (and Hummer's giant). Are these different types of cephs different enough from typicals (and from each other) to be worth the added difficulty required to obtain them?
This is what Eden Black looks like where it gets a very nice dark purple which resembles a black color. Some typicals can actually achieve this color or even darker, but you'll need to firstly have one that has the genes for it and under the right conditons. To me, I find it drop dead gorgeous where others may not agree. If you're interested about Hummer's Giant, you can acquire one from an infamous reputable seller named Charles Brewer. They get large-sized pitchers compared to typicals and as for growing vigorously, it's debatable. With Charles, he's been growing Cephs for over 40 years where many people are happy with their purchases from him (where I'm currently about to place an order from him).