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By CarnivorousObsessed
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These are my 3 venus fly traps! Can anyone help me identify what cultivar the third one is? It has shorter, more teeth like hairs.
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CarnivorousObsessed wrote:These are my 3 venus fly traps! Can anyone help me identify what cultivar the third one is? It has shorter, more teeth like hairs.
It's either a red dragon (akai ryu) or a maroon monster!

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!

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Joshuamarshall792 wrote:
CarnivorousObsessed wrote:These are my 3 venus fly traps! Can anyone help me identify what cultivar the third one is? It has shorter, more teeth like hairs.
It's either a red dragon (akai ryu) or a maroon monster!

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!
It looks a lot like my maroon monster I got from Matt and the traps are wayyyyy too small to be an akai ryu my akai ryu doesn't have white with a yellow color on the new traps but my maroon monster did!

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!

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This was mine! Isn't she beautiful??? She is dead now sadly from mites and my cat eating itImage

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Its almost impossible to tell the cultivar as so many share similar traits. It may not be a cultivar at all as it could be seed grown and just have slightly unusual growth. Where did you purchase them? Did they not give you any info?. They are very nice looking plants.
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By CarnivorousObsessed
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Joshuamarshall792 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:44 pm
CarnivorousObsessed wrote:These are my 3 venus fly traps! Can anyone help me identify what cultivar the third one is? It has shorter, more teeth like hairs.
It's either a red dragon (akai ryu) or a maroon monster!

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!
Really now??! I'm excited!!!! I had no idea that little guy was gonna be red, I'm crossing my fingers for the Maroon Monster. Either way I can't wait to watch it get a really pretty red, that's even more exciting. Thank you for the help!
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Joshuamarshall792 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:48 pm This was mine! Isn't she beautiful??? She is dead now sadly from mites and my cat eating itImage

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!
Ooh how gorgeous!! I'm sorry to hear she didn't make it
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Propag8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:29 pm Its almost impossible to tell the cultivar as so many share similar traits. It may not be a cultivar at all as it could be seed grown and just have slightly unusual growth. Where did you purchase them? Did they not give you any info?. They are very nice looking plants.
That makes complete sense. The smallest one, with the pea shaped pods and shorter spikes was purchased at Harbor Greens, the bigger green one was also purchased there. There was absolutely no details, they had them both in the exact same plastic container, with no water or sunlight. The package just had a picture of a venus fly trap on it, along with a few care instructions on the back, that was it. The Red dragon I purchased from a Nursery. Other than that there was no information or anything on them, sadly!
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I would assume the nursery was correct when labelling your red variety as an akai ryu but you never know it does look quite unique from others I've seen. Your other plants are most likely typical then. Either grown from seed or probably tissue cultured from typicals. All vft are typical unless specifically selected and named for cloning as a cultivated variety. Doesn't make them any less amazing just because someone hasn't named them and if they are seed grown and not tissue cultured or propagated from pullings you have a plant with it's own unique genetics that nobody else has. One of a kind. Also I think there is some confusion, the 4th pic is a red variety listed akai ryu the other two green plants are most likely typical and will not turn red.
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Propag8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:22 pm I would assume the nursery was correct when labelling your red variety as an akai ryu but you never know it does look quite unique from others I've seen. Your other plants are most likely typical then. Either grown from seed or probably tissue cultured from typicals. All vft are typical unless specifically selected and named for cloning as a cultivated variety. Doesn't make them any less amazing just because someone hasn't named them and if they are seed grown and not tissue cultured or propagated from pullings you have a plant with it's own unique genetics that nobody else has. One of a kind. Also I think there is some confusion, the 4th pic is a red variety listed akai ryu the other two green plants are most likely typical and will not turn red.
Thank you!! And yes the Akai Ryu definitely looks unique. I'm noticing since I got that one, it's slowly starting to get more big traps as the newer ones so thats awesome. I'm extremely curious to see what the smaller green one will look like, because that's the one with pea pod shaped traps (It reminds me of pea pods haha) and it has the really short spikes which is definitely unique, compared to the first one. Some of the smaller traps seem to have slightly longer hairs (Though nowhere as long as my very first pne) but all of the bigger ones are really short and spikey! I'm mainly fascinated with the shape
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CarnivorousObsessed wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:01 pm
Joshuamarshall792 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:44 pm
CarnivorousObsessed wrote:These are my 3 venus fly traps! Can anyone help me identify what cultivar the third one is? It has shorter, more teeth like hairs.
It's either a red dragon (akai ryu) or a maroon monster!

dragons are red, scams are blue, but green is true!
Really now??! I'm excited!!!! I had no idea that little guy was gonna be red, I'm crossing my fingers for the Maroon Monster. Either way I can't wait to watch it get a really pretty red, that's even more exciting. Thank you for the help!
Oops I think you were talking about my red plant, correct? I just realized I may have misread that! The very first photo is a close up of the smaller green plant, and that's the one I was curious about!
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Thats the beauty of flytraps even if you and I had the same cultivar it could look like two very different plants depending on our conditions and care routine. Have you checked out cpphotofinder online. You can check out pics of a huge amount of known cultivars including Matt's from the flytrapstore (fts) cultivars. You will see what I mean how one particular cultivar can vary so much. You may find some similar mutations between your plant and a known cultivar. There are lots of common mutations mainly with the lashes (I forget the proper name) e.g. dentate, shark, sawtooth etc. :D
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Propag8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:08 pm Thats the beauty of flytraps even if you and I had the same cultivar it could look like two very different plants depending on our conditions and care routine. Have you checked out cpphotofinder online. You can check out pics of a huge amount of known cultivars including Matt's from the flytrapstore (fts) cultivars. You will see what I mean how one particular cultivar can vary so much. You may find some similar mutations between your plant and a known cultivar. There are lots of common mutations mainly with the lashes (I forget the proper name) e.g. dentate, shark, sawtooth etc. :D
I have not checked that out, I definitely shall be doing that now though, thank you so much!!! I'm super new to cultivars (I actually didn't know there was such thing as vft cultivars until I got my Red Dragon recently, and thats when I started doing more research into them) I've definitely noticed from the research I've done, that the same cultivars can look extremely different, so that totally makes a lot of sense. I also may have missed that, but I had no idea they were called lashes either!!! Let alone it's called mutations that can make different plants look similar. Thank you so much!!! Im super glad I found this site :D
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No problem :D the lashes are actually called cilia if you want to sound technical lol. Glad your on-board just be warned this forum and vft can be addictive ;)
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Propag8 wrote:No problem :D the lashes are actually called cilia if you want to sound technical lol. Glad your on-board just be warned this forum and vft can be addictive ;)
Yes it can! It is very addicting and that's why I've been growing carnivorous plants for 10 years!!!

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