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By vaibhav
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Greetings,
I bought 2 Nepenthes Khasiana and one orchid from a remote hilly area and during the shipping, plastic pot of the plants broke up during transit and one nep and orchid came uprooted with growing media all mixed up. Second Nep was in growing media only but could see the pot being crushed a bit, now I have repotted the uprooted plant in jiffy with the growing media and also watered both the plants.

I am attaching the pics, can you guys please advise what should I do to revive the plants, I will be getting new pots for the plants any kind of suggestion for what kind of pots I should buy?

The growing media of orchid and nep got mixed which had majorly sphagnum moss, some tree bark and some stones. so I separated the tree bark and stones and packed nep with sphagnum moss only and orchid with the sphagnum, tree bark and stones mix.

I will be grateful to you guys if you can advise how should I re-pot it, any thing I should do which I should have done after plant went through 7 days of shipping and the stressful journey. I am kind of worried for uprooted one that one looks the worst of all, and I just want to give healthy environment for the plants to recover

Also I am attaching humidity and temperature data so please advise if I need to make any adjustments to provide suitable environment
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By BugBiters
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Oof, poor guys. I would honestly change as little as possible for the moment, and give them a week or two to recover (the media they're in should be fine). Keep them in high humidity (yours looks fine) and medium light, and maybe give them a little trim so they're not trying to put energy into unrecoverable leaves. I am not familiar with their temp needs so I will let someone else comment on that. I think there's a good change the second one will recover but the other is a little iffy :(
By vaibhav
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Joined:  Thu May 20, 2010 8:32 am
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Thanks for replying,
Nep which came uprooted has turned completely black, as you said chances are less so I dont have much hopes remaining with it but also other plants seems to be turing black, it does have and extra growth point which I saw while potting. Its been raining straight from past 3 to 4 days and the growing media is completely wet as it is almost pure sphagnum moss so not sure if should be worried about it.
I just hope this plant with another growing point really revives.
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By Panman
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You have definitely got rot going on there. I am not a nep expert by any stretch, but I have resurrected the two that I have almost killed. I would remove anything that is black or mushy. I'd take the main plant and remove it from all of the stem/root and put it in a pot of sphagnum and put the whole thing in a plastic bag. Keep it inside with bright light. With luck, the base of the stem should sprout new roots. I'd do the same for the basal that is starting. Hopefully, the center of it is not rotted as well.
By vaibhav
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#385747
Hi,
Thanks for your advice, I have put the plants into plastic covering for increased humidity, while putting them I observed a new growth in the plant which came uprooted and turned almost black, other better one seems to have young leaf growing inside so I am becoming a bit optimistic. I did see spider web on completely black plant with new growth and removed the extremely tiny spider.

As you advised to do a trimming and cleaning of the roots, I would like ask you if it is fine that seeing some growth happening should I repot it for trimming purpose or should wait a bit and let plant get settled. Also how damp should I keep the sphagnum, with yesterday’s rain it is damp but not sitting in standing water or not drenching wet.

There aren’t any holes as such on the bag so should I pokes some hole in it or small opening on the top of bag is good enough.
Right now keeping them outside as I don’t get direct sun light.

Thank you
Really appreciate getting guidance as I badly want plants to survive.
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By Panman
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Those look good. Keep the moss damp, but not soggy. Top water and let it drain. One thing I did forget to mention, I think, is that you don't want it in direct light while it is bagged. Bright indirect lighting is the best for it while you are trying to get it growing again. As for holes in the bag, I would not put any holes in for a week or two. Just open the bag daily to refresh the air so that you don't get mold. Then start adding holes or leaving it open more. In my past rootings, it took at least 4 to 6 weeks before they were able to be put into normal conditions.
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By Supercazzola
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any benefit if he puts some sulfur based fungicide in there (a spray squirt / mist or two) ?
I can't see how removing only the infected areas and not treating it will improve its chances of surviving...
By vaibhav
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Hi,
You guys are right I need some kind of fungicide, the plant which almost died and sprouted a new growth point is totally covered in mold and as soon as used a forcep to remove and the whole mold covered new growth point was dead and just came off. I believe the plant is preety much dead :|

The second one which was having new leaf had some mold formation on unfolded leaf so i cut it off to avoid further mold/fungus growth.

Can you guys please guide me what should I spray, We get kind of nothing related to carnivorous plant in India.

I was away for 2 days n this happened, I feel so bad
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By Panman
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I can't help you on the fungicide as I have never had to use one. The mold and rot is from too much water and not enough air. Being away for two days without opening the bag could have done it. Hopefully someone can recommend a fungicide that you can use.
By vaibhav
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#386224
Hi,
Thanks, I tried finding some kind of fungicide and ordered these 2 things as per the local advise(they are not familiar with carnivorous plants)

it will be great if you can advice if these sounds to be ok for cps

also i noticed that the orchid plant which came with nep has also started to rot though wasnt kept in the bag, also can see tiny flies and some kind of mites on the orchid so I have started giving all the plants some sunlight as it has been raining here from past 7 days with some rare sunlight breaking through on and off

one of the product which I have ordered is neem based fungicide and another is hyderogen peroxide
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