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What happened to FTS Evil Pupils? Was it renamed for “Werewolf spawn” ?

Nepenthes0260 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:49 am

ChefDean wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:05 am I just sent a message to buffalochicken1299 asking him. We'll track this down yet!

Awesome! Please keep us updated on what he says!

Confirmed from buffalochicken1299, he originally got his from FTS, then sold some to Crazy Craig, who put them in TC, and is now just selling them as "Trigger Happy"
They are from Matt's plants.

ChefDean wrote:

Nepenthes0260 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:49 am

ChefDean wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:05 am I just sent a message to buffalochicken1299 asking him. We'll track this down yet!

Awesome! Please keep us updated on what he says!

Confirmed from buffalochicken1299, he originally got his from FTS, then sold some to Crazy Craig, who put them in TC, and is now just selling them as "Trigger Happy"
They are from Matt's plants.

ChefDean wrote:

Nepenthes0260 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:49 am

ChefDean wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:05 am I just sent a message to buffalochicken1299 asking him. We'll track this down yet!

Awesome! Please keep us updated on what he says!

Confirmed from buffalochicken1299, he originally got his from FTS, then sold some to Crazy Craig, who put them in TC, and is now just selling them as "Trigger Happy"
They are from Matt's plants.

Awesome! It's good to know that this one isn't lost forever

Whew, that’s great to hear! Can’t wait to hopefully send divisions to Matt next year.

I figured someone would still have it. Buffalochicken is Steve Brooks and he did buy an FTS Trigger Happy from us years ago. He was one of the few who snagged one.

Good to know it has been preserved! But I took a look at Craig's listing of FTS Trigger Happy and I'm still confused what he means by TTN when used in that way. Is it a clone of the original Trigger Happy or is it something he started from seed?

We’ll have to ask him about it.. what TTN means to him and if he’s cloning the plants

@Adrien, for sure. I took a look at his current listings and it sure does look like they're clones in some cases. But they're all just out of TC so it is hard to say for sure. I think it would be hard to recreate Wacky Traps and Alien from seed but both of his listings state TTN on those products. It is confusing and unorthodox to use that way to describe clones. The ICPS pretty clearly states the naming convention rules and I've never seen TTN used anywhere else before.

TTN meant "true to name". I think it was something he used to say that they were the real deal on the plants that were not his own CCCP cultivars.

Nepenthes0260 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:03 pm TTN meant "true to name". I think it was something he used to say that they were the real deal on the plants that were not his own CCCP cultivars.

I asked him about it and he said

Some of them are True to name the name ones that you know as B52, Alien and so on, CCCP in front of the name is grown by me which are seed-grown Only by me thur only Tissue Culture. TTN by that culture which could be registered. Hope that helps. Like CCCP Tasmanian Devil, CCCP red Onyx, CCCP Destruction are Registered Cultures by seeds.

@Adrien, thanks for posting that. Does what Craig wrote make sense to you?

Adrien wrote:Some of them are True to name the name ones that you know as B52, Alien and so on

I am still unclear whether or not they're genetic clones (i.e. vegetatively reproduced) or seed-grown plants when he uses the phrase TTN.

Not really, kinda confusing and they way he words things is off.

Yeah he definitely could have worded it better.

I think CCCP just means it is a distinctive enough of a seed grown plant that he has since started tissue culturing that specimen and gave it a name. TTN is probably just his own marketing tactic to say "Hey these are the real deal, and not some random scam."

WONE wrote:I think CCCP just means it is a distinctive enough of a seed grown plant that he has since started tissue culturing that specimen and gave it a name. TTN is probably just his own marketing tactic to say "Hey these are the real deal, and not some random scam."

@WONE, that's what I am guessing as well but it certainly isn't 100% clear from what he wrote. And there's no reason to introduce another naming scheme by using the phrase TTN. Plants are either propagated vegetatively, and thus are exact genetic replicas so "TTN" isn't required to describe them, or they're grown from seed and are genetically unique. The fact that traditional naming conventions aren't being followed and the answers received about what "TTN" means still aren't very clear, at least to me, raises my eyebrows and makes me a little leery.

I received mine today. Both plants look healthy. But they are a bit tiny.

I also got mine, but mine were smaller, and a couple had become dislodged in transit that had to be replanted.. However, there were 5 or 6 clusters that appeared to have multiple plants each.