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By pandaking666
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I got these a week ago from the Box store they are in orchid moss. but they don't seem to be doing well . Can somebody help me out? Could our rain caused this? Location Houston TX. # are Venus flytraps the other is a American pitcher plant from what it said on the box. 3rd pic https://imgur.com/a/jSfdIA5
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By ChefDean
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Well, to start with, they dont look bad at all.
Next, orchid moss isn't the greatest, but, since they're only a week out of the deathcube, and recently repotted, leave them be. The only reason to repot again so soon would be if the orchid moss had any fertilizers added. We'll assume that it doesn't for now, maybe you could check on it and confirm. Expect them to decline a bit as they adapt to a free range life outside the prison of the big box store. They'll recover.
The one is correctly labeled as a Venus Flytrap, the other is incorrectly labeled as an American pitcher plant. It is actually a Nepenthes, a tropical pitcher plant. Likely a ventricosa or a ventrata.
Rain water is actually ideal for these plants, however they both like to keep their roots moist, not swimming. Let the top dry out a bit before adding more water. Later in the Houston summer, you could leave them sitting in a 1/2 inch of rain or distilled water, again letting the top dry out a bit before doing it again. No tap water unless you can confirm that it is less than 50 ppm TDS.
Both will do OK outside. Put the VFT in a spot that receives good AM sunlight until about noon, then shade for the hottest part of the day.
Hang the Nepenthes where it might get only an hour of early morning sunlight, but not much more. Shade all day long will be fine for this plant, but not less than 50°F. If desired, the Nepenthes will do fine hanging in front of an east facing window.
Keep them moist, keep close to those light requirements, let them recover, and they'll come around. And ask questions whenever you have them, you'll find many helpful people here.
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By pandaking666
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thanks for the info. the one that im really worried about is the one in the imgur pic that one is turning all black. what would be a better potting medium? the ochid moss does not have any fertilizers from what is said in the package.
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By ChefDean
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A better medium would be 100% long fiber Sphagnum moss, preferably from New Zealand or Chile.
As to the imgur pic, that plant is still green, so it's still alive. However, on closer examination, it appears to be planted too deep. You might want to wiggle it up to where the white part or even with the media. When it's deep like that it can choke out the growth point and make it harder for the new leaves to come through.
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By pandaking666
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ChefDean wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:27 am A better medium would be 100% long fiber Sphagnum moss, preferably from New Zealand or Chile.
As to the imgur pic, that plant is still green, so it's still alive. However, on closer examination, it appears to be planted too deep. You might want to wiggle it up to where the white part or even with the media. When it's deep like that it can choke out the growth point and make it harder for the new leaves to come through.
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately 2 of the 3 flytraps did not make it but one is having new growth. Also the pitcher plant is having new growth as well.
https://imgur.com/a/2UgwJBs
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By ChefDean
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Looking good, but cut the flower stalk on the VFT as close to the base of the stalk as possible. The plant will pump most of it's energy into the stalk to the deficit of the plant. Plus, maybe clear away the dead traps from the plant, just to let it breathe a little and prevent mold from the decaying leaves.
After you cut the stalk, put it about an inch deep, cut side down, into the moss. It may strike a new plant or two.
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ChefDean wrote:Looking good, but cut the flower stalk on the VFT as close to the base of the stalk as possible. The plant will pump most of it's energy into the stalk to the deficit of the plant.
I was just gonna say the same thing! It does look like it is growing well, but be sure to snip off that flower stalk ASAP!
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By MikeB
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ChefDean wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:37 pmNext, orchid moss isn't the greatest
ChefDean wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:27 amA better medium would be 100% long fiber Sphagnum moss, preferably from New Zealand or Chile.
pandaking666 probably bought Better-Gro Premium Grade Orchid Moss from some place like Home Depot or Lowe's. It's LFSM, decent quality.
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By pandaking666
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Matt wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:56 pm
ChefDean wrote:Looking good, but cut the flower stalk on the VFT as close to the base of the stalk as possible. The plant will pump most of it's energy into the stalk to the deficit of the plant.
I was just gonna say the same thing! It does look like it is growing well, but be sure to snip off that flower stalk ASAP!
Is it really detrimental if I leave it on?
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By ChefDean
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The plant is stressed, it thinks it's dying, so it's putting a last effort in putting up a flower stalk. It's also acclimating to a newer, better environment, which is a stressor. With the stress and the energy being redirected, it will probably die. Many times, when a plant puts up a last ditch flower stalk, the plant dies before seed can be produced.
The best suggestion is to cut the stalk so that the energy going into its production can be redirected back to the plant for rhizome, root, and leaf production. After that, again I would suggest to clear away all the black leaves to prevent an incidence of mold.
The plant could still die, sometimes they just do. If that happens, there are a few members who like to help and have multiple divisions just laying around, and one might offer to sell one for cheap.
In the meantime, I suggest you cut the stalk and put the stalk about an inch in the moss, cut side down. Put it outside where it will get bright, indirect light for a few weeks, then acclimate it to direct sunlight. Keep it moist, and let it recover.
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By pandaking666
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So the new growth started to die off and the established traps stared to die off as well. The moss is moist but we had rain for a couple of days. What could have happened?
Finally repotted my Nepenthes

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