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By MajesticGnat
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Hi there,

Ive had two pitchers for a while one being growing well and the other has been on the decline.

Last year i repotted both one with no issues and the other i think partially died off but grew/kept a couple of leaves.

A couple of weeks ago after keeping these leaves one of them seemed to suddenly start growing and produced a small new trap on its end but now it seems to have taken a turn and all the leaves while green have become crinkled and dried out for lack of better term. ive not seen this happen with either of my traps and not sure if the plant has died full or is entering a stage im not aware of.

Apologies if this seems like a silly question but im pretty much a beginner here :)

Pics included of each for comparison and hopefully its enough to get some advice.
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By Panman
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#372349
Looking at the last picture, it appears to be planted too deeply and has some sort of pest problem. The phylodia should not be that short and curled.
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By optique
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it is in a window, can a tall sarracenia be healthy not in full sun?
By MajesticGnat
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#372378
i dont think putting it outside is an option right now as i snowed a bit last night and is pretty cold out.

i was taking a closer look at the older rotted part that died off hoping to get some insight and spotted a couple of small white insects dotting about the disturbed rot some sort of mite but i cant see them clearly with how small they are.

i dont have any compost for them and my usual store for it is closed until the 1st of feb else i might have tried repotting incase its something in the soil.

would it be worth emptying the pot and repotting the remaining live plant in a better posistion and giving it a better examination? if so what would be the best way to and what should i keep an eye out for?
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By Matt
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MajesticGnat wrote:i dont think putting it outside is an option right now as i snowed a bit last night and is pretty cold out.
It can be moved in and out depending on the weather. Also, Sarracenia are very cold hardy. The last few winters I left mine outside all the time and they experience temperatures down into the teens Fahrenheit and they all came back in the spring.
MajesticGnat wrote:would it be worth emptying the pot and repotting the remaining live plant in a better posistion and giving it a better examination?
Yes, it is definitely worth repotting it and taking a closer look when you have it uprooted. Just keep an eye out for anything that doesn't look like it is naturally part of the plant. Scale, mealy bugs and spider mites are the most common pests on Sarracenia, so you'll want to take a look at what those look like and watch for them as you repot.
By MajesticGnat
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#372424
ok ive ordered some fresh Sarracenia soil and done a little bit more digging (both litteral and research) im pretty sure the small white insects are spider mites now.
By MajesticGnat
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#372680
hi again,
Just got the fresh soil and repotted.
good news there doesnt seem to be any infestation and there is a good amount of what i think is not only healthy root but appears to have grown down and out of the bottom of the pot.
Ive removed the portions of dead root and rotted ribosome and did my best to repot and spreading the rather long root through the new soil and posistion the living ribosome towards the middle and top of the pot.
The bad news though is that the leaves did die and break away from the ribosome after a carefull and close examination.
Pics to come once ive made sure the new soil is properly watered
By MajesticGnat
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#372681
here we go, pictures of what i found still living and after potting.

I left that as it is as i wanted to get advice first incase i should fill to the top of the ribosome or leave some above the surface?

Advice welcome thank you
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By steve booth
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#372683
Wrinkly leaves is a bad sign, normally that means they are dry, either from the media drying out or what it looks like in your case, rhizome rot, although the roots look ok at the moment they are often the last to die. Cut the rhizome open, if it is brown and corky it's dead at that point, cut a bit further up till you find white healthy rhizome. If you find non its dead,
and dispose of it and the media in a manner that won't spread pathogens.
If there is any white rhizome cut it to that point keep as many roots as possible and keep a bit wetter than you would normally for dormancy.
Good luck
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By MajesticGnat
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#372684
theres not much of it left but i can confirm that the ribosome is brown and not exactly corky but its nothing close to what ive seen with my other healthy plant.

I think its safe to assume this one has rotted completely.
By MajesticGnat
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#372685
update : yeah the ribosome is completely rotted. it just completely broke apart and matches the corky look throughly...

Atleast i have a few seeds and its new soil so theres nothing stopping me from reusing i suppose
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