Pinguicula Vulgaris

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By Gnat Destroyer -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:48 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:48 pm #370465

First post here. P. vulgaris is native to my area (MN) and I want to add it to my garden in the spring. However, it seems the common butterwort isn't so common in cultivation. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? The only thing I can find online are some sketchy stores offering seeds.

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By Panman -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:06 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:06 pm #370468

I've noticed an overall dearth of temperate pings. Seems like they aren't as sexy as the Mexican piings.

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By Gnat Destroyer -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:07 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:07 pm #370472

I've noticed that too. Very few temperate pings available

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By evenwind -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:30 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:30 pm #370473

BCP (Best Carnivorous Plants) has them and a lot of other temperates as well - but you've got to catch them when they're open and the paperwork is going to cost you.

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By hungry carnivores - Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:36 pm

- Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:36 pm #370474

Panman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:06 pm I've noticed an overall dearth of temperate pings. Seems like they aren't as sexy as the Mexican piings.

Because they're boring for half the year. Mexicans, although they sometimes make a noncarnivorous rosette, still grow and flower during winter, and are able to propagate. Meanwhile the temperates just die for the winter lol.

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By Panman -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:13 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:13 pm #370478

Now, now, now, there is no need to get ugly.

I like my temperates because I don't have to find space for them inside for the winter.

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By Huntsmanshorn -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:51 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:51 pm #370481

Gnat Destroyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:48 pm First post here. P. vulgaris is native to my area (MN) and I want to add it to my garden in the spring. However, it seems the common butterwort isn't so common in cultivation. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? The only thing I can find online are some sketchy stores offering seeds.

Sometimes you can get one in the spring on Facebook and, once in awhile, you can find them on eBay or maybe Etsy. Quick tip, if you ever find one for sale, only buy if it comes potted, they do not like much root disturbance at all. Being shipped bare root will usually mean eventual death, which, take it from me, is heartbreaking.

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By sanguinearocks101 -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:08 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:08 pm #370482

hungry carnivores wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:36 pm
Because they're boring for half the year. Mexicans, although they sometimes make a noncarnivorous rosette, still grow and flower during winter, and are able to propagate. Meanwhile the temperates just die for the winter lol.

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By Gnat Destroyer -  Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:37 pm
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- Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:37 pm #370484

Thanks for the input. Makes sense they may be harder to come by right now since they're out of season. I'll keep an eye out for some in the spring.

Are there any other more readily available varieties that are hardy in zone 4?

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By Apollyon -  Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:48 am
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- Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:48 am #370489

Could also try ebay. They get a surprising amount of uncommon plants for sale.

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By Huntsmanshorn -  Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:48 am
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- Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:48 am #370495

Gnat Destroyer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:37 pm Are there any other more readily available varieties that are hardy in zone 4?

No, unless you want to try Pinguicula grandiflora. It's easier to find and grow than vulgaris but I doubt it can withstand your winters outside but if you are willing to stick it in an unheated garage for the winter it would probably survive.

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By jeff -  Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:56 pm
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- Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:56 pm #370974

for my part I find them as sexy as the Mexican ping, I cultivate a lot of them.

the winter they do not die, they hibernate to spend it happily

they have an advantage here in France is that they don't have to bring them in in winter

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By madrone -  Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:00 pm
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- Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:00 pm #370981

I agree - cold-temperate pings are very underrated! I'm definitely less worried about the survival of their overwintering hibernacula than the succulent phases of some mexican pings.

I just received a wee P. vulgaris in a trade this fall. It went 'to sleep' almost right away, and I'm hoping it wakes up in the spring. But. P. grandiflora has been growing nicely for me for a few years and is a cheery sight in the spring bog planters!

Maybe try a post in the sales/trades/wants and see if anyone has an extra come spring? Or rarexoticseeds, if you want to try the grow from seed approach (although it's out of stock at the moment).

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By jeff -  Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:17 pm
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- Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:17 pm #371010

can be used in priority the bulbils developed by the adult hibernacula, rather than the seeds which are often too old or which have a reduced germination capacity or even which have hybridized,

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