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It may be possible, sometime in those moments when you are getting along well together, to try to get him interested in the hobby. If those moments are few and far between, try to create them yourself (some suggestions from the other responses would be excellent for this).

It is kind of a tragedy for all parties involved when someone's talents and hobbies are stifled.

When I was a child my dad mocked me for growing "flowers" and called me a f@g. In the best case scenario an individual would be able to explain how this hobby can turn financially profitable with good cultivation skills and the necessary greenhouse space, and that supporting the hobby would be a huge benefit and the parent could even take a chunk if the profit, any better yet have satisfaction that their child grew up into someone who knows how to be responsible and has a horticultural background to fall back on if SHTF. Instead in the worst case scenario you get someone with extreme self confidence issues.

In my case if I had a greenhouse I could be one of those famous plant youtubers and have a nice background for videos and room to propagate for ebay sales, but instead I am a loser who lives in their parent's basement because my entire life my hobbies were mocked and I was constantly asked if I am a retard with down syndrome. It is great poetic justice because now everyone who is involved in my life going to be on a miserable downhill spiral into poverty and insanity since I am a glorified parasite at this point.

That's why I recommend establishing dominance with a fist fight. It is biologically sound and I am a certified biologist. However due to brain damage from years of trauma I am also certifiably insane so you probably shouldn't listen to me.

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SundewWolf wrote:It is kind of a tragedy for all parties involved when someone's talents and hobbies are stifled.

When I was a child my dad mocked me for growing "flowers" and called me a f@g. In the best case scenario an individual would be able to explain how this hobby can turn financially profitable with good cultivation skills and the necessary greenhouse space, and that supporting the hobby would be a huge benefit and the parent could even take a chunk if the profit, any better yet have satisfaction that their child grew up into someone who knows how to be responsible and has a horticultural background to fall back on if SHTF. Instead in the worst case scenario you get someone with extreme self confidence issues.

In my case if I had a greenhouse I could be one of those famous plant youtubers and have a nice background for videos and room to propagate for ebay sales, but instead I am a loser who lives in their parent's basement because my entire life my hobbies were mocked and I was constantly asked if I am a retard with down syndrome. It is great poetic justice because now everyone who is involved in my life going to be on a miserable downhill spiral into poverty and insanity since I am a glorified parasite at this point.

That's why I recommend establishing dominance with a fist fight. It is biologically sound and I am a certified biologist. However due to brain damage from years of trauma I am also certifiably insane so you probably shouldn't listen to me.

p.s. subscribe to youtube.com/HelixPlants
ESKEETIT, gucci gang x7

They're a biologist so they could be right, but they're most definitely insane, so I don't think you should take their advice.

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SundewWolf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:51 am It is kind of a tragedy for all parties involved when someone's talents and hobbies are stifled.

When I was a child my dad mocked me for growing "flowers" and called me a f@g. In the best case scenario an individual would be able to explain how this hobby can turn financially profitable with good cultivation skills and the necessary greenhouse space, and that supporting the hobby would be a huge benefit and the parent could even take a chunk if the profit, any better yet have satisfaction that their child grew up into someone who knows how to be responsible and has a horticultural background to fall back on if SHTF. Instead in the worst case scenario you get someone with extreme self confidence issues.

In my case if I had a greenhouse I could be one of those famous plant youtubers and have a nice background for videos and room to propagate for ebay sales, but instead I am a loser who lives in their parent's basement because my entire life my hobbies were mocked and I was constantly asked if I am a retard with down syndrome. It is great poetic justice because now everyone who is involved in my life going to be on a miserable downhill spiral into poverty and insanity since I am a glorified parasite at this point.

That's why I recommend establishing dominance with a fist fight. It is biologically sound and I am a certified biologist. However due to brain damage from years of trauma I am also certifiably insane so you probably shouldn't listen to me.

p.s. subscribe to youtube.com/HelixPlants
ESKEETIT, gucci gang x7

I guess this is rated PG...???

jose wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:34 pm

SundewWolf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:51 am It is kind of a tragedy for all parties involved when someone's talents and hobbies are stifled.

When I was a child my dad mocked me for growing "flowers" and called me a f@g. In the best case scenario an individual would be able to explain how this hobby can turn financially profitable with good cultivation skills and the necessary greenhouse space, and that supporting the hobby would be a huge benefit and the parent could even take a chunk if the profit, any better yet have satisfaction that their child grew up into someone who knows how to be responsible and has a horticultural background to fall back on if SHTF. Instead in the worst case scenario you get someone with extreme self confidence issues.

In my case if I had a greenhouse I could be one of those famous plant youtubers and have a nice background for videos and room to propagate for ebay sales, but instead I am a loser who lives in their parent's basement because my entire life my hobbies were mocked and I was constantly asked if I am a retard with down syndrome. It is great poetic justice because now everyone who is involved in my life going to be on a miserable downhill spiral into poverty and insanity since I am a glorified parasite at this point.

That's why I recommend establishing dominance with a fist fight. It is biologically sound and I am a certified biologist. However due to brain damage from years of trauma I am also certifiably insane so you probably shouldn't listen to me.

p.s. subscribe to youtube.com/HelixPlants
ESKEETIT, gucci gang x7

I guess this is rated PG...???

Although dark and unsettling, it is a personal account, perhaps tongue in cheek and satirical, to be taken with a grain of salt. It isn't an attack on another member.

Heck guess I’ll tell my personal tale

jose wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 pm Heck guess I’ll tell my personal tale

Go for it. However, maybe start a new thread for it unless it ties into the discussion surrounding the original post or a response to it.

Hellllllllll no Keeping that story to myself!

Apollyon wrote:It does give perspective even if does sound bleak. It could very well be that the op home environment isn't a great place. That could be a very real possibility. I offered negotiation based off the idea that maybe it's just the natural "teen" development at work. Sometimes though, there isn't a negotiation. I personally didn't want to probe into their home life so I gave a couple general "solutions." I'm sure there are several of us who came from less than ideal scenarios and had to "go against the grain." Ignorance is worse than anything. I particularly feel bad for the one who had one of those insecure dads who believe anything outside of Coors Light and a pool table is for "fags." You gotta do what makes you happy and you're right. You can make a lot of money and the knowledge could get you somewhere if things go to hell. For instance, a lot of people made serious money throughout covid. While the world was shut down, people were selling plants to people trying to keep their sanity by taking on a plant or two for serious cash. Still, I believe I saw one of your videos on the Scott's Disease EX. Don't let that bring you down. If you want to make videos, make them. Don't throw in before you've given yourself a chance to try. Try selling some plants and get savings started to remove yourself from a toxic situation. Try growing smaller ones of value. If you're in a bad spot like that, you can only improve things. But not without trying.

Yes, I have a dad that calls me a "sissy" whenever I do something that isn't seen as "manly" it creates a toxic house and ruins relationships, it's extremely hurtful when your own family insults you for not being their vision of the perfect child, it's probably one of the worst things you can do to a child's emotions.

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ChefDean wrote: Although dark and unsettling, it is a personal account, perhaps tongue in cheek and satirical, to be taken with a grain of salt. It isn't an attack on another member.

Not satirical, however I was drunk the night I wrote it. It is no joke that I'm crazy though, so while sober I still write stuff equivocally crazy, I just prevent myself from posting it.

The main idea is all there though, Yes it is there house but stifling someone's potential seems like a no brainer bad idea. I was always forced to waste time on nonsense like playing piano since it was supposed to "make me smart" and tae kwon do so that I don't "turn into a fat american monster", and all my plant growing and artwork was a "big mistake and waste of money". I've been pissed off for years because of it. Imagine if I wanted to ride horses too, not only girly, but also another "huge waste of money". Now I'm dwelling in bitterness for extended periods of time and constantly telling myself "things should not have been this way, if only I had one small greenhouse I could have made profits, I could have saved money and moved out, I could have had nicer recording space, I could have don this or that". I now also have zero respect for my parents as an adult, and consider everything they say complete nonsense. Seems like typical "teenage nonsense" and maybe I shouldn't be like this at 27 but I know the advice they keep trying to give me is the dumbest stuff in the world. Like i said im 27 and cant even set up a greenhouse because I don't have my own yard. I have almost no friends because the constant ridicule from my parents destroyed my self esteem. I didn't do great in school because I hated it, because any time I asked for help with homework I was asked if I have down syndrome and told that it should be easy because al you learn in american school is about McDonalds and football. I could have sat around doing drugs and ended up in this exact same place, at least I would have had more fun. Perhaps someone can reformulate it into an argument this guy's parents could understand and agree with.

Go camping at National and state parks and wilderness areas. It’s cheap and proven to be more effective at mental rehabilitation than anything the modern medical field has come up with

jose wrote:Go camping at National and state parks and wilderness areas. It’s cheap and proven to be more effective at mental rehabilitation than anything the modern medical field has come up with

Yes, I agree. What I also found out is that I love horses and I now am blessed to work at a barn in bumblef*ck twice a week. An ongoing theme in my life was to revolt against the modern world and my parents always said I was a loon and fool on some Chris McCandless stuff. But those are the two days alone in the barn and the only to days where I don't drink hard liquor, mainly because I finally feel like I have a valuable duty caring for animals instead of some BS crap job providing meaningless services for shallow nonsense. They screamed at me so much to not work with dirty animals but it's all I ever really wanted.