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By zendercosm_11
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Howdy. I bought several nepenthes from Bergen Water Garden’s online store (https://bergenwatergardens.com/product- ... us-plants/) in July, 2020. For anyone considering this nursery, please be very careful adding any new plants to your new or existing collections. You will probably want to quarantine any new ones first to watch them for issues.

One plant displayed signs of a pest infestation after 6 days; webs that look suspect of spider mites. It was immediately doused, rubbed, and quarantined. A small spider fell off the plant.

One hour after the flea & tick bath, small yellow pests (no black spots on their bodies, yet...) were roaming on the leaves. Almost 72 hours later, no more webs have been built; the yellow pests remain.

I’m just a hobbyist with limited hands on experience; a permanent beginner needing to always learn more.M. This in mind, I reached out to as many people as I could that might know what the pest could be. Several, including a mother online nursery owner & hydroponics teacher, strongly believe it’s thrips.

Searching “thrips in New England” on Google led me to several Online articles published through universities in New England. *Apparently, this species of thrips has been terrorizing greenhouses in the area for over a decade. I don’t believe everything I read online, but Bergen Water Gardens is in the state of NY.

Obviously, pests happen in the gardening world. It’s just a fact, right? I’m not mad about the infested plant. Stuff happens, and we resolve the issue. But I do feel that people who buy from Bergen Water Gardens should strongly consider quarantining their plant for at least 10 days before exposing them to your collection.

Beyond that issue, the shipping costs were not outrageous, they have a decent selection, and the communication is hit or miss. I ordered one plant, and they were out of stock. I told the female representative to surprise me with a plant of equal value. She was polite enough, but has yet to respond to me email expressing this same concern. Don’t hesitate to at least explore their website!

Edit: 3 of 5 plants on a second order indicate pest damage. Seller is not helpful in the slightest, in it only for the money, and has no concern for the plants. Please be very cautious!!!
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By Apollyon
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I purchased from bergen water gardens through facebook. I personally didn't have a bad experience but the yellow bugs thing worries me. I recently had an aphid outbreak that came out of nowhere. I can't say where they came from because it could have been anywhere. I inspect new plants but it's my fault for not quarantining them. Lesson learned.

Pests do happen but at the same time, while I know they turn out a lot of products, they should at least inspect the plant before they ship it. I noticed that about my local nursery. They put a lot into the presentation and making it a nursery that stands out but their maintenance is just bad. Virtually every plant in their greenhouse had some kind of pest. Thanks to them I have collected quite a number of pesticides and treatment options for plants.
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By zendercosm_11
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That’s a relief to hear you say about your personal experience, except for the bit where you had to actually deal with pests. That’s a real drag. :(

I bought two hybrids at that particular time. While only one is displaying symptoms right now, I’m still a little skeptical. I rashly bought 5 more plants from them, after I assumed their plants were “hunky dory.” What’s that you said about learning lessons? Lol.

I have yet to go deeply explore this forum’s posts about solutions to the issue. I’ve been researching other places online & reading a ton of product labels. I realize there multiple avenues, but I’m just about ready to go nuclear with a systemic pesticide & run all the risks. My finger is < > that close to pushing the red button. :twisted:
By Apollyon
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zendercosm_11 wrote:That’s a relief to hear you say about your personal experience, except for the bit where you had to actually deal with pests. That’s a real drag. :(

I bought two hybrids at that particular time. While only one is displaying symptoms right now, I’m still a little skeptical. I rashly bought 5 more plants from them, after I assumed their plants were “hunky dory.” What’s that you said about learning lessons? Lol.

I have yet to go deeply explore this forum’s posts about solutions to the issue. I’ve been researching other places online & reading a ton of product labels. I realize there multiple avenues, but I’m just about ready to go nuclear with a systemic pesticide & run all the risks. My finger is < > that close to pushing the red button. :twisted:
People tend to use stuff like Neem Oil diluted with water. I've had mixed results with it. I know Matt recommended one that was supposed to be pretty gentle and could be used on all carnivorous plants. I'll need to go back and look. Personally I've taken to using Bayer's 3 in 1 insecticide/miticide. Mine turned into an infestation, mainly on my trees but a few CPs too. I had tried Neem Oil over the course of a few weeks but it didn't completely remove them but it did help. They got pretty bad though. I went systemic and I believe they're all gone. I've tried to be pretty vigilant about it since. They're all indoors. Thankfully I have a lot of plants that are shielded and/or outdoors. I'd double check Bayer's on Nepenthes but I believe it is safe. Neem Oil you can purchase on Amazon (get a concentrate it is MUCH cheaper and you know what the ingredients are).

EDIT: Acephate, that's the chemical.
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By zendercosm_11
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I will definitely look for neem concentrate online. I’ve had at least 5 people tell me to try it, first. I was leaning towards Dinotefuran or just some wettable Orthene powder. I bought a bottle of the Bioadvanced 3 in 1, but was told to try a longer-lasting method than that particular product. Never came across acephate. I really appreciate the information here—I’ve been losing sleep over this issue. :shock:

Edit: I just looked up Orthene 97, & notice it is made up mostly of Acephate. Go figure. :lol:
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