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Is this sand ok?

by EllieB » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 pm

Hey! So my VFT Is going from bad to worse and I'm trying to figure out what might be the problem. I used this sand and spagnum moss when repotting. Is it the wrong sand? I bought it from a nursery and they said it was horticultural sand which I thought was ok. Thanks! ImageImage

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Dionae » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:22 pm

No, that is not good sand. It's full of minerals. What you want is pool filter sand. Pool shops should have it.

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Granpa Walt » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:14 am

Pool sand is usually available at Home Depot for around $6 for a 50 lb bag.

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Zach7286 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:09 pm

Could anyone share any insight as to how you can tell whether or not the sand you've bought is acceptable? Do you just go by whether or not there are any black bits inside of it? I planted a few seeds several weeks ago using 1/2 long-fiber spagnum and 1/2 this white sand that I had purchased at Home Depot (Mosser Lee White Sand: https://www.mosserlee.com/product/551_Sands.aspx), and have had pretty poor luck in getting them to germinate - I think I'm at 1 out of 10 or so after about 2 months. I'm wondering if the sand I used is part of the problem? lol not that there aren't lots of other things that might have gone wrong.

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Matt » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:53 pm

Zach7286 wrote:Could anyone share any insight as to how you can tell whether or not the sand you've bought is acceptable?

If it is silica sand, it is fine. If it is not silica, then it's probably not fine.

Zach7286 wrote:I planted a few seeds several weeks ago using 1/2 long-fiber spagnum and 1/2 this white sand that I had purchased at Home Depot (Mosser Lee White Sand: https://www.mosserlee.com/product/551_Sands.aspx)

It is hard to tell for sure since there isn't much information about the sand itself, but I would guess that sand might not be good. It certainly could be part of the problem.

Zach7286 wrote:lol not that there aren't lots of other things that might have gone wrong.

:D yes, growing from seed can certainly be quite challenging!!
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Re: Is this sand ok?

by mcgrumpers » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:50 pm

My personal preference is to get sand with larger grains. I bought #12 sand based on recommendations I read around here and have been pretty happy with it.

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Zach7286 wrote:Could anyone share any insight as to how you can tell whether or not the sand you've bought is acceptable?

If it is silica sand, it is fine. If it is not silica, then it's probably not fine.

I've previously used what I now believe was silica sand labelled as "horticultural sand". I convinced myself this sand was OK after soaking it in distilled water for some time and verifying that the resulting TDS was acceptable. So far, I've had 100% success with this method based on the one time I tried it :|

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Zach7286 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:30 pm

mcgrumpers wrote:
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Zach7286 wrote:Could anyone share any insight as to how you can tell whether or not the sand you've bought is acceptable?

If it is silica sand, it is fine. If it is not silica, then it's probably not fine.

I've previously used what I now believe was silica sand labelled as "horticultural sand". I convinced myself this sand was OK after soaking it in distilled water for some time and verifying that the resulting TDS was acceptable. So far, I've had 100% success with this method based on the one time I tried it :|


Thanks to both of you for the tips! Ha I think my convo with the Home Depot employee went something like...

Me: Is this silica sand?
Him: all sand is silica sand

... which I took to mean that it was good for use, but maybe I should have said "pure silica sand" or something instead (I'm now wondering). In any case, I'll probably just buy a new bag that's labeled more explicitly for the remaining 10 seeds that I'd purchased. I actually might start a new thread later on soliciting more general help in troubleshooting what might have gone wrong with this first batch. Thanks again!

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Re: Is this sand ok?

by Matt » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:45 pm

Zach7286 wrote:Thanks to both of you for the tips! Ha I think my convo with the Home Depot employee went something like...

Me: Is this silica sand?
Him: all sand is silica sand

Haha! That's not true!

Zach7286 wrote:In any case, I'll probably just buy a new bag that's labeled more explicitly for the remaining 10 seeds that I'd purchased. I actually might start a new thread later on soliciting more general help in troubleshooting what might have gone wrong with this first batch. Thanks again!

That sounds like a plan!
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Re: Is this sand ok?

by jpappy789 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:56 pm

I'll echo mcgrumpers, even "pure" silica sand can lead to problems if it's too fine and helps the media compact. It's a PITA to find, and a bit expensive to ship if you can only get it online, but the silica horticulture sands (that a lot of bonsai/succulent growers seem to like) can be larger grained and CP-safe.

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