Inside or out?

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Inside or out?

by Cross » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:41 pm

So I was wondering. I'll attach a picture so you can see weather and set up. The seeds are sarr,vft, and droseras. Nothing is sprouting yet. I guess they're still sleeping lol. Would it be better to Just put them outside? I can keep them covered. Currently those lights are 5k Kelvin 1650 lumen bulbs. They're also on a seedling mat. Would they germinate better outside? Thanks. ImageImage

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Re: Inside or out?

by TheTrapper » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:40 pm

I would say to keep them inside, since the temperature lows outside would probably slow down the germination process. My seeds (pretty much same as yours) all germinated with a really high rate at around 85 F with the humidity levels around 100% and the lighting at around 6500 K.
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Re: Inside or out?

by Fieldofscreams » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:04 am

I tend to let nature do what it does best.

If they were mine I would just put them outside under my glass patio table uncovered sitting in a tray of water to keep the surface moist at all times.
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Re: Inside or out?

by Copper2 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:25 am

Humans manage nature no matter what we tell ourselves. Even small things like stopping wild fires, and fertilizing plants affects nature. So since you cannot stop affecting nature I suggest trying to make it more beautiful and diverse. This includes bending the seasons in the fridge, and keeping them extra warm....
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Re: Inside or out?

by Fieldofscreams » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:47 pm

Humans cannot control nature.

We can mimick it somewhat in controlled environments (scientists with big funding) but we cannot control it.
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Re: Inside or out?

by Copper2 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:17 pm

I don’t mean control like being able to mimic it whenever we want. A better word would be that we manage nature. We don’t usually manage well though. The things we do effect nature
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Re: Inside or out?

by DragonsEye » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:15 pm

Twer it me, I'd put them outside .... but then I tend to be short of space inside. :D
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Re: Inside or out?

by _-SphagnumFromHell-_ » Thu May 16, 2019 4:09 am

I tend to let nature do what it does best.

If they were mine I would just put them outside under my glass patio table uncovered sitting in a tray of water to keep the surface moist at all times.

Humans cannot control nature.

We can mimick it somewhat in controlled environments (scientists with big funding) but we cannot control it.


Nature does what it does best, but sometimes nature doesn't always go with our wishes.

For example, if I followed the "I'll just put it outside, nature will do what it does best" mindset with my seedlings in my conditions, they would burn right up or never germinate at all. This is because where I live, the heat and dry air would cook a growing carnivorous plant seedling. However, if I took my seeds and put them in a sunny windowsill under a little saran wrap, they germinate pretty good. In fact, that's what I did recently with my Venus Flytrap seeds and so far they're doing pretty good.

Thing is, the word "nature" encompasses a lot of various different climates with loads of variables like seasons, temperature, humidity, soil, elevation, and so on. Usually with most carnivorous plants, a lot of these line up just fine with a lot of conditions. But sometimes, nature treats a place differently compared to somewhere a certain plant is used to growing. So growing a plant there can create certain challenges.

So I don't think the overall right thing to do is succumb to nature and grow everything under it, as much as try to see how much you can utilize nature, while still preserving some important requirements. Even with your minimal approach, you still need to keep the plants watered, which to some extent is still artificially modifying the environment.

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Re: Inside or out?

by Cross » Thu May 16, 2019 1:07 pm

_-SphagnumFromHell-_ wrote:
I tend to let nature do what it does best.

If they were mine I would just put them outside under my glass patio table uncovered sitting in a tray of water to keep the surface moist at all times.

Humans cannot control nature.

We can mimick it somewhat in controlled environments (scientists with big funding) but we cannot control it.


Nature does what it does best, but sometimes nature doesn't always go with our wishes.

For example, if I followed the "I'll just put it outside, nature will do what it does best" mindset with my seedlings in my conditions, they would burn right up or never germinate at all. This is because where I live, the heat and dry air would cook a growing carnivorous plant seedling. However, if I took my seeds and put them in a sunny windowsill under a little saran wrap, they germinate pretty good. In fact, that's what I did recently with my Venus Flytrap seeds and so far they're doing pretty good.

Thing is, the word "nature" encompasses a lot of various different climates with loads of variables like seasons, temperature, humidity, soil, elevation, and so on. Usually with most carnivorous plants, a lot of these line up just fine with a lot of conditions. But sometimes, nature treats a place differently compared to somewhere a certain plant is used to growing. So growing a plant there can create certain challenges.

So I don't think the overall right thing to do is succumb to nature and grow everything under it, as much as try to see how much you can utilize nature, while still preserving some important requirements. Even with your minimal approach, you still need to keep the plants watered, which to some extent is still artificially modifying the environment.
Agreed. I live in PA now. I had to buy a bench for outside. I put my plants outside and was outside watering them every day because it wasn't raining. It poured the other day. I'm afraid by seedlings have been washed out of my pot. So I bought a bench to put them and then cover when it pours. Nature is rarely perfect.

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