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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:23 pm

Thanks Jeeper! You're too kind!

The plants do all the hard work. Haha. I'm sorry to hear that about your first Heliamphora. I encourage you not to give up on them just yet. I do know how discouraging it can be when a plant you really want to grow gives you trouble and can't figure out why. I have trouble with Cephalotus. They grew beautifully in San Jose but since I have brought them down to Socal they have collapsed one by one. White sugary fungus. Makes the plant look like frosted flakes. I treat with fungicide, repot and nurse them back only to have it re-emerge once the plant is established again. I have only a handful left untouched. It's aggravating to say the least.

If I had to guess I say it was the daytime high and too little light that did your Heliamphora in. Probably more the temps than anything. Also it can take quite some time to harden them off fully. Longer than any other plant I grow. The Heterodoxa x Minor in the last picture took almost 3 months before I felt comfortable completely removing the clear plastic cup I had over it. I just taped it to the pot and kept cutting little holes in it every few days or a week. I did this until it had put out and fully opened an adult trap. Even then I think I just removed the the bottom of the cup and left it taped to the pot so it had a cone hat on it until another pitcher formed and opened. If a plant isn't quite ready to be unbagged, temps are higher than 76F and light is low, failure is likely just around the bend.

According to Wistuba there is a fungi that lies dormant in the roots of Heliamphora and is activated by temps above 76F. Monthly soil treatment with Trichoderma such as Great White can combat this but it is still ideal to keep the temps below 76F.

The specific species may have had a lot to do with your unsuccessful experience as well. H. Minor for instance is much picker than Heterodoxa or any of its hybrids.

You want to check out this page. This guy is a wizard with Heliamphora. He's pretty awesome with Cephalotus and orchidiodes section Utricularia as well but you have to dig around on terraforms for that stuff.
http://bluegrasscarnivores.com/helipage ... ation.html
The next link is the same page posted here on FTC with a discussion on the Trichoderma between the author and Snapperhead - another wizard.
my-techniques-for-the-care-of-new-heli-divisions-t14407.html

I hope some of this helps and maybe convinces you to give them another shot. They are very rewarding to grow. If you do try again I would suggest either Heterodoxa x Ionasii or Heterodoxa x Minor, in that order. Also pure Heterodoxa is known for being more tolerant of warm temps than any other species except Ciliata which is sometimes referred to as "the lowland heli" although that is a little misleading as they are not found below 1500 m as far as I know. I don't grow Heterodoxa yet but Ciliata only took a week or two to harden off.

May I ask which Heliamphora you tried?

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by Jeeper » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:50 pm

Awesome info! I've read the trichoderma but haven't gotten any yet.

I had tried Uncinata and it was a rather small/young plant. I'm thinking I will try with a larger plant in the future and hope it's more robust. My Cephalotus have put out anfew pitchers since I got them a couple months ago, but they also require much less light than helis I think.
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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:05 am

Ah yes, I remember the post now. Don't feel too bad. I'm currently growing roughly 20 Heliamphora species and hybrids and Uncinata is the only one I nearly killed trying to harden off. It's been in the "nursery" recovering for months now and it still looks like I might well lose it.

Good luck and happy growing!
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Oh, check this out! I was looking through a bunch of old pictures trying to find a weird mini orchid bloom I had and I came across this picture of that 'Cherry Top' from way back in May of last year, so like three months after I got it.

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Heterodoxa x Minor 5/8/2017
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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:42 am

Well what do we have here?!

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H. Heterodoxa x minor flower spike forming 9/16/18
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She's gettin big too!

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H. Heterodoxa x Minor with folding rule - Looks like just about 4 1/2 inches to me. 9/14/18
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Pretty excited about this. It is my first Heliamphora flower. I've always thought the flowers look mysterious and magical. It will be cool to see one in person.

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by Maiden » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:53 am

Wow, great plants. You are talented :-)

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:59 pm

Some long overdue updates. First up is the most vigorous hybrid I have - H. heterodoxa x ionasii - from May of last year (2018) to just a few days ago (3/2019).

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heterodoxa x ionasii 5/1/18
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h. heterodoxa x ionasii and others 8/29/18
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H. heterodoxa x ionasii and others 12/16/18
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H. heterodoxa x ionasii 2/06/19
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H. heterodoxa x ionasii flower stalk emerging 2/27/19
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H. herterodoxa x ionasii nectar on the spoon - H. neblinae "Avispa" and D. magnifica in the back ground 3/1/19
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Closer look at the nectar
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H. heterodoxa x ionasii flower stalk 3/8/19
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Re: Some Heli pictures

by CpKid » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:14 pm

Beautiful plants, they look really healthy!The sphagnum is a great addition! I'd really like to try Heliamphora in the near feature, would you recommend any particular supplier? Thanks! :)

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:04 am

Thanks! They are very rewarding to grow, I think everyone should have some!

I got most of mine from private growers. I picked up a couple chimatensis from pet fly trap, those have been good plants. Off the top of my head those are the only plants I have gotten from a nursery.

Nancy Martins has wonderful plants. I'm sure she could help you out if you asked real nice. I would recommend starting with either H. heterodoxa or any of its hybrids - preferably with adult pitchers. It may cost a bit more than a juvenile plant however I have found that plants with adult pitchers are much more forgiving. I have a few juvenile plants of H. heterodoxa x ionasii which should be putting out their first adult pitchers very soon if you don't mind waiting a little bit? They were divided from the same mother plant as the one pictured above.

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by CpKid » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:06 am

Thank you so much for your reply!
I'd really like to do that, I'm fine with waiting a while for a nice plant!
Thanks!
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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:57 am

Cool. You can PM me here and we'll work something out. Or email me at my screen name at gmail dot com.

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by CpKid » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:22 pm

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Re: Some Heli pictures

by iamjacksplants » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:19 am

Next up we have H. heterodoxa x minor. A couple of repotting pics, the spike and some pics I took today - 3/11/19

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Repot 9/17/18
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Minus the pot 9/17/18
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New pot 9/17/18
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Flower spike 9/28/18
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H. heterodoxa x minor 3/11/19 one side
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3/11/19 the other side
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3/11/19 the front
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And my favorite shot for last - I like how the flower stalk trails off to one side. I can't believe it's still holding the blooms! The first one opened in late October I believe - take that orchids! Haha.

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3/11/19 my favorite shot
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That's it for now. Thanks for looking and happy growing!
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Re: Some Heli pictures

by CpKid » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:07 am

Wow, that flower stalk is pretty nice! Almost six months, whew!

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