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to cross a ceph with a nep it would be awesome to have a nep that makes ceph pitchers

Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

ya i know that nep its pretty cool ( i know a lot of neps)

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

girlzano167 wrote:

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

wat??? NO who told you that!! unless its a ..........................CANABLE!!

dionaea muscipula wrote:

girlzano167 wrote:

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

wat??? NO who told you that!! unless its a ..........................CANABLE!!

Nepenthes ampullaria doesn't attract insects with nectar, and since they lay on the ground leaves fall into them. That is why the pitcher has no lid. I'm sure it would eat bugs if you put them in the pitcher though.

girlzano167 wrote:

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

Good point; I think they are the Omnivores, of CPs. My understanding they feed on anything that happens to enter their pitchers, Bugs, plant material, feces. Stil a cool plant!

Bud wrote:

girlzano167 wrote:

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

Good point; I think they are the Omnivores, of CPs. My understanding they feed on anything that happens to enter their pitchers, Bugs, plant material, feces. Stil a cool plant!

Ohh nice, I could poop in my pitcher!

girlzano167 wrote:

Bud wrote:Crossing, I doubt it. However, there is a plant similar to what you are talking about,…. Well Almost, kind of reverse of what you wanted. Check out Nepenthes Ampullaria, It is a Lowland NEP that grows lower Small pitcher clusters. Still pretty cool!

click the link-for a look

http://www.nickgarbutt.com/images/dmIma ... Bako_1.jpg

Don't nepenthes ampullaria eat leaves instead of bugs?

N. lowii is like this as well. They frequently find bird poop in it.

They're detrivores (not omnivores...humans are omnivores) - detrivores feed on organic waste.

Yes they will still eat a bug if you put it in there, but I don't think it's nectar is secreted to attract insects.

Ampullaria and lowii are the rodents of the Neps.

Veronis wrote:
N. lowii is like this as well. They frequently find bird poop in it.

They're detrivores (not omnivores...humans are omnivores) - detrivores feed on organic waste.

Yes they will still eat a bug if you put it in there, but I don't think it's nectar is secreted to attract insects.

I think you mean “detritivores” which consume primarily organic waste. Although they may be partially “detritivourous” the best information I got for Ampullaria
“The prey found in the pitchers consists not only of insects (which form a smaller share than in other Nepenthes) but also on plant material. The pitchers seem not to be very attractive for insects. Instead the open mouth collects whatever falls from the forest canopy, animals, feces and plant parts.”
Imho, N. Ampullaria sounds more omnivorous (“species that eat both plants and animals ”) But whatever one may think they are …they’re still pretty cool

Veronis wrote: Ampullaria and lowii are the rodents of the Neps.

umm...most rodents are omnivores

Bud

Bud wrote:

Veronis wrote:
N. lowii is like this as well. They frequently find bird poop in it.

They're detrivores (not omnivores...humans are omnivores) - detrivores feed on organic waste.

Yes they will still eat a bug if you put it in there, but I don't think it's nectar is secreted to attract insects.

I think you mean “detritivores” which consume primarily organic waste. Although they may be partially “detritivourous” the best information I got for Ampullaria
“The prey found in the pitchers consists not only of insects (which form a smaller share than in other Nepenthes) but also on plant material. The pitchers seem not to be very attractive for insects. Instead the open mouth collects whatever falls from the forest canopy, animals, feces and plant parts.”
Imho, N. Ampullaria sounds more omnivorous (“species that eat both plants and animals ”) But whatever one may think they are …they’re still pretty cool

Oops. So detritivore then.

It does sound like they could be omnivores, but amps are classified as detritivores or semi-detrivores (since they still eat bugs) primarily because they digest and utilize leaf litter. I think this is one of the original articles before it was actually classified: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/375422

From Wikipedia: "N. ampullaria has largely moved away from carnivory and acquires a substantial portion of its nutrients from digesting leaf matter that falls to the forest floor. It is thus partially detritivorous."

Amps certainly have an interesting evolutionary trail.

Bud wrote:

Veronis wrote: Ampullaria and lowii are the rodents of the Neps.

umm...most rodents are omnivores

Bud

Ugh. I just meant that amps eat any crap they can get from their habitat; rodents (especially rats) do the same, omnivorous or otherwise. It didn't seem to make sense to compare amps to termites, pill bugs, or worms.