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By YDK
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Can someone help me Identify this plant? It was sold to me as S.Wrigleyana.
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By KategoricalKarnivore
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#312048
That’s what it is.
By riveraXVX
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#312049
someone else will need to correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that would be 'Scarlet Belle'

which is a hybrid of I think S. Leo and S. Psittacina

looks spot on to ours and I'm pretty sure when I looked ours up it was also called X Wrigleyana


nevermind! x Wrigleyana would be correct (Wrigley's pitcher plant)

'Scarlet Belle' is just a variation off that with the parents reversed. tricky. :lol:
By riveraXVX
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and if you'd like to read more on both 'scarlet belle' and Sarracenia x wrigleyana:
"Submitted: 15 November 2002

Sarracenia cultivars can be found naturally, but the best are planned and then created by combining the best traits of two plants. Rather than just pairing two random plants and hoping for the best (which is usually a waste of time, energy, and resources), hybridizers plan and design characteristics into the final product. Such engineering resulted in Sarracenia ‘Scarlet Belle.’
I was growing and selling plants for the retail and wholesale carnivorous plant trade via WIP (World Insectivorous Plants, circa 1976-1990) when I developed the hybrid cultivar that is finally being named Sarracenia ‘Scarlet Belle’. It was one of two plants that I wanted to produce for collectors and the wholesale market. I sought to offer a Sarracenia that would exhibit the best of the genus by having a striking combination of vivid colors, as well as being a plant that would grow rapidly, perform well in shade or bright sun, tolerate soil moisture levels ranging from very wet to almost dry, maintain a compact form for easier and less destructive transport, and have an abundance of firm, long lasting, and intriguingly shaped pitchers. I was able to develop this showstopper by combining S. leucophylla and S. psittacina parents that fully met my design criteria. Only the single best plant from the progeny was selected for tissue culture replication.

Sarracenia leucophylla is noted as one of the best species of the genus for coloration and form. It has two pitchering seasons, and grows well in wet or semi-dry open savannas. Unfortunately for my target goal, it is a rather tall species, and mature plants only produce a few pitchers at a time. Its counterpart for this pairing, Sarracenia psittacina, is a colorful low-growing rosette that prefers wet to soggy habitats. While S. psittacina plants can be found naturally in open locations, they seem to be more at home and are typically found in shady areas under shrubs or between tall grasses. One very desirable feature of this species is its propensity to produce an abundant quantity of pitchers that retain their color during the normal winter dormancy period.

Sarracenia x wrigleyana (S. psittacina x leucophylla) is an uncommon, but naturally occurring hybrid periodically found in Gulf Coast savanna bogs containing both parent species. I believe that the majority of Sarracenia x wrigleyana plants result from crosses where the maternal parent is S. psittacina. This is because Sarracenia are protogynous, meaning the stigmas are mature and able to receive pollen before the stamens release pollen. Because of this, a Sarracenia flower is most likely to be pollinated by other flowers that matured earlier in the season. This aspect also serves to minimize self-pollination. Since S. leucophylla plants typically flower four to six weeks earlier than S. psittacina, natural crosses between these two plants are more likely to involve a slightly late-blooming S. leucophylla (pollen parent) and a slightly early-blooming S. psittacina seed parent. As further evidence for my theory, most of the wild S. x wrigleyana plants I have observed were near a group of S. psittacina plants. I believe this indicates the seeds germinated directly from or near the seed parent, i.e. S. psittacina.

I wondered what the characteristics of S. x wrigleyana would look like if the parentage was reversed, i.e. if a S. leucophylla was the seed parent. From a production standpoint, S. leucophylla is a superior seed parent as it produces considerably more seed in the capsule than its counterpart. This aspect was important before the establishment of tissue culture reproduction for Sarracenia. Seed was the only viable means at that time to generate wholesale quantities of plants.

In the spring of 1985, I removed pollen from a very compact and maroon colored S. psittacina and used it to pollinate a number of crimson red S. leucophylla plants. Seed was harvested, cleaned, refrigerated, and stratified for sowing the following year. Plants were raised and then sold locally or exported to CRESCO, a major European carnivorous plant distributor at that time. I eventually stopped selling plants on a retail and wholesale level, but retained a few dozen of the most outstanding plants for my personal collection. It seemed that everyone who saw this particular hybrid wanted one. In retrospect, I should have attempted propagation by using the proven leaf extraction method that was used on rare forms of S. psittacina. I would simply pull off a full leaf or pitcher with some of the rhizome tissue, insert the bottom 3 cm into semi-moist chunky grade vermiculite, and enclose it in a humid terrarium. Roots would begin to form within four to six weeks. This vegetative propagation method might work on S. x wrigleyana because of its S. psittacina parentage.

A few years ago, I provided my best S. x wrigleyana plant to AgriStarts for consideration as an addition to their expanding carnivorous plant line. Mike Rinck was impressed with the sample and its pitcher retention during the winter months. He put the hybrid into AgriStarts’ intensified tissue culture production program and it is now being sold in wholesale lot quantities.

Our son, Brian Hanrahan and his fiancée, Jennifer Kruse, selected the name ‘Scarlet Belle’ on August 7, 2002. I bestowed this honor on them as an endearing reminder of their wedding the following week. Jennifer is a “Belle” from Texas who incidentally selected a scarlet red color scheme for her wedding. These two facts, coupled with the plants natural coloration and “horn” or “bell” shaped pitchers, solidified the name selection.

Sarracenia ‘Scarlet Belle’ grows well in wet to semi-moist standard Sarracenia mixes. Coloration is best under full sun, but the plant tolerates and develops nice colors with lower light levels. It maintains pitchers throughout the year with some degradation in the winter months; growth spurts occur in the spring and late summer. It differs from typical S. x wrigleyana with its intense scarlet red pitchers and vigorous habit that produces a profusion of pitchers. The pitchers are up to 40 cm long, slightly conically tapered, with the mouth turned toward the center of the plant; the mouth opening is variable in aperture, from being totally closed to 5 cm wide x 3 cm high on mature pitchers and flared triangular in shape; prominent areoles descend decreasingly from the pitcher’s mouth. All parts of the flower perianth are deep burgundy red; the size is intermediate between S. leucophylla and S. psittacina.

Older pitchers can be removed to stimulate new growth and to maintain the plant’s esthetic balance. Reproduction should be done only vegetatively, i.e., by tissue culture, rhizome division, and leaf cuttings (if it works!).

BOB HANRAHAN • Powder Springs, GA • USA"

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By YDK
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#312670
I received this plant yesterday as S.leucophylla but I just wanna make sure that it isn’t a hybrid ( im not a big fan of hybrids)
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By KategoricalKarnivore
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#312675
Looks like a leuco to me.
By SerMuncherIV
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#312678
That's a hybrid. Hood shape is off for a leuco, looks like there might have been some purpurea influence at some point.

That being said, with many Sarracenia it's very difficult to define what's a "species" and what's a "hybrid". Undoubtedly, many individuals of species we find in situ have traces of introgression somewhere down the line.
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By boarderlib
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#312730
I agree worth Ser. The way the pitchers come out of the growth point towards the side make me think it's a hybrid. Most leuco's the pitchers tend to come straight up, and not out to the side curving upward.

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By YDK
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#312906
OMG the guy from the nursery that sold me this plant insists that its a leuco :)) the difference can be seen very clearly after a few search on google
By YDK
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#312911
I think Ive got the plant’s id Sarracenia [ (Leucophylla x Purpurea ) x Leucophylla 'White Top' ]
Also are there any “pure” leucos in the whole bunch?
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By WildFire
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#315141
Got this at a local Sobey's if that helps. On the name tag it just said Venus Flytrap... Was wondering if anyone knew what this was more specifically as I found out there are a few different types lol
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By boarderlib
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#315150
Unless it came with a tag specifying that it is a cultivar, it is a 'typical'.

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By t9gear
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#315184
Almost could be a Phalanx with those long lashes


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