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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by dr_donut » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:36 pm

Same, I have a few plants I want to get when there is a host.

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:46 pm

I might be able to do it? What's involved.


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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by SFLguy » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:58 pm

tannerm wrote:I might be able to do it? What's involved.


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You have to apply for permits from the usda i believe it's a bit of paperwork

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:51 am

SFLguy wrote:
tannerm wrote:I might be able to do it? What's involved.


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You have to apply for permits from the usda i believe it's a bit of paperwork

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Maybe not then, too bad :(


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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by nimbulan » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:48 pm

The application process sounds like more work than it actually is. I would bet hosting the group order is more work. I applied for the free permit (just for seeds) recently and this is how it goes:

Before starting you need to know which genera you will be importing (though you might as well just list all the CP genera for a group order,) which countries you will be importing from (I believe Carnivoria is in the Czech Republic, but it doesn't actually say anywhere on their website that I've been able to find,) and the shipping method they will use (regular mail vs parcel service.)

- Create a level 2 account (required to be able to fill out forms) on the USDA website and fill out your contact information.
- Drive to the nearest USDA office (there's tons of them, it shouldn't be far) and show your ID to get your account activated.
- Fill out the application forms online. This requires a list of each genus of plant you want to import and which countries each one will be imported from, as well as the method of shipment (regular mail vs parcel service.) You can amend this application later if necessary for future orders. I don't know if the CITES application requires more information.
- I got the permit in 5 business days so you shouldn't have to wait long. I have no idea if the CITES permit takes longer.
- After getting the permit, you have to request shipping labels for your permit which are required to be placed on import shipments.

One important note - if the shipment will be coming by parcel service, you will need to create an account with one (UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc) and include that information with the shipment so the inspection station can bill you to ship the package from there to your home. This is not required if the package is sent through the mail as diverting the package to the inspection station never leaves the mail system so the original postage is still valid.

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:21 pm

nimbulan wrote:The application process sounds like more work than it actually is. I would bet hosting the group order is more work. I applied for the free permit (just for seeds) recently and this is how it goes:

Before starting you need to know which genera you will be importing (though you might as well just list all the CP genera for a group order,) which countries you will be importing from (I believe Carnivoria is in the Czech Republic, but it doesn't actually say anywhere on their website that I've been able to find,) and the shipping method they will use (regular mail vs parcel service.)

- Create a level 2 account (required to be able to fill out forms) on the USDA website and fill out your contact information.
- Drive to the nearest USDA office (there's tons of them, it shouldn't be far) and show your ID to get your account activated.
- Fill out the application forms online. This requires a list of each genus of plant you want to import and which countries each one will be imported from, as well as the method of shipment (regular mail vs parcel service.) You can amend this application later if necessary for future orders. I don't know if the CITES application requires more information.
- I got the permit in 5 business days so you shouldn't have to wait long. I have no idea if the CITES permit takes longer.
- After getting the permit, you have to request shipping labels for your permit which are required to be placed on import shipments.

One important note - if the shipment will be coming by parcel service, you will need to create an account with one (UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc) and include that information with the shipment so the inspection station can bill you to ship the package from there to your home. This is not required if the package is sent through the mail as diverting the package to the inspection station never leaves the mail system so the original postage is still valid.


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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by nimbulan » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:25 pm

Honestly I would consider it, but I don't really have room to be importing a bunch of plants, and Paypal has been doing weird things with my account for a while (placing holds on my payments for no reason and support won't respond to my inquiries about it) so I don't want to risk running into problems with so much money involved.

Edit: I should note that I know someone else who had the same issue with Paypal as me. They closed his account out of the blue and it took him 6 months to get his money transferred into his bank account. If he tries to create a new account, they find out and close it within a couple days. So I hope you can understand my reluctance. I really wish there was a viable alternative to Paypal out there because they really are a terrible company (not just for this reason, there are plenty of stories about them screwing people over out there.)

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:22 pm

nimbulan wrote:Honestly I would consider it, but I don't really have room to be importing a bunch of plants, and Paypal has been doing weird things with my account for a while (placing holds on my payments for no reason and support won't respond to my inquiries about it) so I don't want to risk running into problems with so much money involved.

Edit: I should note that I know someone else who had the same issue with Paypal as me. They closed his account out of the blue and it took him 6 months to get his money transferred into his bank account. If he tries to create a new account, they find out and close it within a couple days. So I hope you can understand my reluctance. I really wish there was a viable alternative to Paypal out there because they really are a terrible company (not just for this reason, there are plenty of stories about them screwing people over out there.)

Oh for sure I've personally had a number of issues with PayPal myself. I'd be willing to wire you the money, just say'n 8-) :ugeek:

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by katya_dog1 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:29 pm

Paypal is a substandard company, not someone I'd trust my money with. I never have and never will use it.
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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:32 pm

katya_dog1 wrote:Paypal is a substandard company, not someone I'd trust my money with. I never have and never will use it.

ebay certainly hasn't done the service any favors since the acquisition.


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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by nimbulan » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:20 pm

Paypal is actually an independent company again as of a year ago.

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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm

nimbulan wrote:Paypal is actually an independent company again as of a year ago.

Oh? Just looked it up, well... I guess it's just a lame company regardless of who's in control.


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Re: Carnivoria.eu group Order

by tannerm » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:50 pm

Anyway, off topic :)


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