Re: Minimum & Maximum pH Values
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:41 pm
Also, this thread got totally hijacked...
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209 wrote:I have never been to Europe. Is that where you are from?Hah, no, but there is this thing called the interwebz (I think?) and you can communicate with people from all over the world on it. Sorry...I couldn't help myself
209 wrote:if it does not look "healthy" to a layman, then they do not put it in their shopping cart.Yep, I've noticed the same thing when selling to people that have never seen one before. They simply look right past the unusual ones and right at the larger, fuller plants. When I sell in person, I don't even bring named varieties, but just really nice looking seed-grown flytraps and typical-looking flytraps which, somewhat ironically, don't sell all that well at the FlytrapStore.
209 wrote:I breed for bombproof plants which can succeed even when they are abused and ignored.That's great! We too breed for large, robust plants, but we haven't done any selective breeding for plants that are more tolerant to high mineral levels or anything like that. I wonder where the limit is when breeding for plants that can handle high mineral levels in their water? Have you found that you can actually breed plants to grow in potting soil or to be repeatedly watered with 300 ppm water that's high in calcium and magnesium?
Matt wrote: Have you found that you can actually breed plants to grow in potting soil or to be repeatedly watered with 300 ppm water that's high in calcium and magnesium?Yes, I have a clone now in production which can survive being irrigated with 0.7 EC water(so cal tap water) indefinitely. It will have some leaf deformations at this level of salts but the traps will still work and the plant will survive.
209 wrote:Yes, I have a clone now in production which can survive being irrigated with 0.7 EC water(so cal tap water) indefinitely. It will have some leaf deformations at this level of salts but the traps will still work and the plant will survive.That sounds impressive, but I have no idea how 0.7 EC water translates to TDS. Do you know the conversion?
209 wrote:Why do you guys use TDS instead of EC?Good question! I guess because someone once wrote that water under 50 PPM is definitely safe to use on flytraps, and, as often happens, I just assumed that TDS was the thing to check when testing water for CPs because it was the only thing I've ready about. Isn't EC essentially the same as TDS except the numbers are different? I believe that one of the forum members here (95slvrZ28) wrote a formula for converting between EC and TDS of water...but my memory may be faulty.
Matt wrote:That sounds impressive, but I have no idea how 0.7 EC water translates to TDS. Do you know the conversion?There are multiple conversion scales.
Matt wrote: Isn't EC essentially the same as TDS except the numbers are different? I believe that one of the forum members here (95slvrZ28) wrote a formula for converting between EC and TDS of water...but my memory may be faulty.EC = mS/cm = 1/(resistance across the resistor)
209 wrote:Why do you guys use TDS instead of EC?I'm guessing because the cheap TDS meters most of us use (like the HM-Digital TDS-EZ), although they measure EC (electro-conductivity), display the result of the measurement numerically as PPM (parts per million) of TDS (total dissolved solids).
209 wrote: I live and work in northern San Diego county in southern California.Oh wow. I would love to visit your facility! I live in Central SD!
209 wrote:parker679 wrote:What would you say is the rate of significant mutations you see in your plants? As in how many do you typically throw out versus the total plant count?This isn't something that I keep hard data on but my gut feeling is a major mutation every 1 in 10,000. This is rather disconcerting as 100% of my production is tissue culture clones.....damn cosmic rays! Mutating my mutant plants!
parker679 wrote: That's exactly why I was curious. Since you use 100% clones any mutations would be pure genetic mutation as opposed to something caused by cross pollination. Very interesting.It just goes to show ya how unstable these little guys are.
Steve_D wrote: I'm guessing because the cheap TDS meters most of us use (like the HM-Digital TDS-EZ), although they measure EC (electro-conductivity), display the result of the measurement numerically as PPM (parts per million) of TDS (total dissolved solids).Ah I see...
209 wrote:I live and work in northern San Diego county in southern California.Where? I live closeby
Tony C wrote:Nice setup! I picked up a few of your plants at a local Home Depot about two months ago and they have proven to be very vigorous.Early March? hummm....A lot of people sell venus flytraps to Home Depot & Lowes. I have no idea if the ones you picked up were mine.
209 wrote:Tony C wrote:Nice setup! I picked up a few of your plants at a local Home Depot about two months ago and they have proven to be very vigorous.Early March? hummm....A lot of people sell venus flytraps to Home Depot & Lowes. I have no idea if the ones you picked up were mine.