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By DragonsEye
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elaineo wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:38 amWait, really??? Do you use Hydroton + peat for sarrs & neps? This is so cool. I will be very happy if I can stop buying perlite. Turface is just like hydroton, but with smaller particle size, right?
Hydroton (LECA) might be harder than Turface and I believe has more large air pockets in it. Also it won't pack down as much as Turface.

For Neps (or orchids) I usually use Hydroton + bark/coconut husk chunks + sphag. But "usually" is the operative word here as it depends on what I have on hand. If I have wine corks on hand, I may make use of those instead.

Similar situation for Sarrs except I do use peat with them instead of sphag. The only time I have used Turface with Sarrs is when starting seeds and then it is a Turface + peat blend.

Do be careful when choosing Turface substitutes. (I have known folks who gave clay based kitty litter a try. They found that it turns to mush rather quickly making it unsuitable.)

If you can find Growstone, it is a good replacement for perlite. It is made from recycled glass that is whipped into a frothy foam while in a liquid state before being allowed to cool. It is stronger and heavier than perlite.

You can also look at using turkey or chicken grit (those are 2 different sizes) found at feed stores. It is granite which will be inert. Just make sure it hasn't been coated with calcium (some brands will do that).
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By Apollyon
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It probably is MVP, I use that as well and its a small particle size. Was fairly cheap too at the time.
By KategoricalKarnivore
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For Mexican pings I use 1:1 Turface:silica sand. They love it. Never tried with Drosera but cacti and succulents love it too.
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By Apollyon
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Turface is definitely underrated. It makes a great ingredient for simple root system plants. I've used it with Drosera Regia and sometimes as an ingredient in other plants if I want retention and drainage without destroying the bank trying to buy akadama.
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After a month on hydroton, this guy is about to put out its first flower! I added the lfsm because it looked like it was kinda too dry at first. It’s in a shallow bean dip dish with a nylon wick going into a tub of water below.
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elaineo wrote:After a month on hydroton
Neat set-up. I need to try more media experimentation - this one is a new one to me!
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I'd never heard of hydroton before this thread but I can see it being useful for a couple different plants
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It's also called LECA (lightweight expanded clay aggregate). Personally, I've used it for semi-hydro set-ups or as an adder into soil mixes for terrestrial plants, but I haven't seen it used for CPs. Cool to see elaineo's success with it for a ping set-up.
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