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How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:33 pm
by TrapsAndDews
I don't know if I'm pronouncing the names of different plants correctly. One genus that I don't know how to pronounce is Sarracenia. Do you guys know how to pronounce the names, or do you just guess?

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:37 pm
by Panman
sarah sin ee ah

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:49 pm
by TrapsAndDews
How about these species:
collinsiae
aliciae
burmannii
tokaiensis
(there's probably more I can't pronounce properly)

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:52 pm
by Panman
These I am less sure about
collins ee aye
alees ee aye
bur maan ee
toke aye ensis

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:06 pm
by ChefDean
I don't pronounce them, they're in Latin, I speak 'Merican. I just spell them, they're fine with it.

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:13 pm
by evenwind
If there's a choice between spelling in Latin or garbling the name, I'm content to garble.

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:01 pm
by TrapsAndDews
Who makes up these names? :lol:
ChefDean wrote:I don't pronounce them, they're in Latin, I speak 'Merican. I just spell them, they're fine with it.
Do you also write it down when you're talking to people?

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:14 pm
by MaxVft
Panman wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:37 pm sarah sin ee ah
Huh... and all this time I've been pronouncing "Saa rah sen ee ah"

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:31 pm
by Panman
Tomatoes, tomatos

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:50 pm
by TrapsAndDews
MaxVft wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:14 pm Huh... and all this time I've been pronouncing "Saa rah sen ee ah"
Same here.

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:20 pm
by DeadlyCarnivore
TrapsAndDews wrote:How about these species:
collinsiae
aliciae
burmannii
tokaiensis
(there's probably more I can't pronounce properly)
Double I's at the end of something make the hard E and I sounds. So, Bur Man E I. Its the same for Ridleyi, even though its a Y and I... You still say E I. I think?

Bur Man E I? Bur Manny I?

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Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:52 pm
by nimbulan
Botanical Latin isn't quite the same as regular Latin, so there aren't really many hard pronunciation rules. It's generally fine to pronounce it how you think it would read as an English word. There are plenty of exceptions though - such as plants named after people (ends in -ii, -iana, -ae) or places (ends in -ensis) or named after another taxon it resembles (ends in -oides), which you should generally pronounce the same way as the original name. The -ii suffix particularly should be pronounced as ee-eye.

Also of note, if you look up a Wikipedia article for a particular plant, there will often be a pronunciation guide at the very beginning of the article. You can even use a website like this to have it roughly read aloud for you: https://itinerarium.github.io/phoneme-synthesis/

The way I would pronounce all the mentioned names so far:
Sarracenia - Sara (like the name) sin-ee-ah
collinsiae - Collins (like the name) ee-ay
aliciae - Alice (like the name) ee-ay
burmannii - Burr-man (long n) ee-eye
tokaiensis - Toe-kai-en-sis (like sister)

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:24 am
by tracieh
I felt like an idiot watching a video live meeting for my local carnivorous plant society. In my head- because I had never actually had to say it out loud to anyone- I would pronounce drosera as DRO SER AH. Listening to them talk it's actually DRAH SUR AH. if my phonetics make sense. It was slightly embarassing but I'm glad I didnt make too big of a fool out of myself :lol:

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:20 am
by Carnies
Lots of people say Drosera like, DRAW SER A . Whenever I watch different youtube videos, everyone pronounces thing differently.

Re: How Do You Pronounce The Scientific Names Of Carnivorous Plants

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:30 am
by nimbulan
The DRO and DRAH pronunciations are both quite common. I wouldn't really worry about which one you use though I think more experienced growers tend towards DRAH.