FTS VFT seeds
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:14 pm
I looked at my pots with fts vft seeds in them and I noticed lots of germination. How is everyone else doing with them?
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hungry carnivores wrote:I have gotten ~100 percent, although it was a bit of an experiment:I can see how scarification would be effective. Hard shell coated seeds always do better with that method. Sometimes we convince ourselves that CPs are its own entity. What I wonder is how you went about actually doing it. Those seeds are so small lol. Did you use forceps or something?
30 typical seeds, three pots:
1. Ga3 0.001M solution soak 1H. Next, sow on chopped sphagnum, temps at 78 *F (petiolaris tank). Germ rate: 70% (7/10)
2. Scarification with sand paper, 120*F water soak 10 mins, temps at 70 (Room temp). Germ rate: 100% (10/10)
3. Maxsea rinse, sowed on peat/perlite, temps 85*F, (LL minitank). Germ rate: 40% (4/10)
You make your own conclusion
Apollyon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:01 pmI can see how scarification would be effective. Hard shell coated seeds always do better with that method. Sometimes we convince ourselves that CPs are its own entity. What I wonder is how you went about actually doing it. Those seeds are so small lol. Did you use forceps or something?I'm a little curious myself. I've tried to get good contact between seeds and moss (both peat and chopped lfsm), but have never had greater than about a 30% germination rate.
Apollyon wrote:What I wonder is how you went about actually doing it. Those seeds are so small lol. Did you use forceps or something?That's what I was wondering too. I was thinking maybe forceps or tweezers, and fine-grained sandpaper?
hungry carnivores wrote:I have gotten ~100 percent, although it was a bit of an experiment:I would think that a GA3 soak would dramatically increase the germination rate for those older seeds. Glad to hear people are getting some germination with them though!
1. Ga3 0.001M solution soak 1H.
oval wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:49 pmForceps, a loupe (for soldering tiny things), and a razor blade. you use it to gently peel off a little seed coat.Apollyon wrote:What I wonder is how you went about actually doing it. Those seeds are so small lol. Did you use forceps or something?That's what I was wondering too. I was thinking maybe forceps or tweezers, and fine-grained sandpaper?
hungry carnivores wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:47 am Forceps, a loupe (for soldering tiny things), and a razor blade. you use it to gently peel off a little seed coat.You said sandpaper in your original comment, not a razor blade.
hungry carnivores wrote:2. Scarification with sand paper, 120*F water soak 10 mins, temps at 70 (Room temp). Germ rate: 100% (10/10)Pretty different methods. People looking for help might get confused by the changing story. Which is correct?
ChefDean wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:23 amOops. Razor blade was correct. A little absentminded during writing. Sorry, will edit.hungry carnivores wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:47 am Forceps, a loupe (for soldering tiny things), and a razor blade. you use it to gently peel off a little seed coat.You said sandpaper in your original comment, not a razor blade.
hungry carnivores wrote:2. Scarification with sand paper, 120*F water soak 10 mins, temps at 70 (Room temp). Germ rate: 100% (10/10)Pretty different methods. People looking for help might get confused by the changing story. Which is correct?
hungry carnivores wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:53 pm I have gotten ~100 percent, although it was a bit of an experiment:Updated to reflect correct methods.
30 typical seeds, three pots:
1. Ga3 0.001M solution soak 1H. Next, sow on chopped sphagnum, temps at 78 *F (petiolaris tank). Germ rate: 70% (7/10)
2. Scarification with Razor blade/Lame, 120*F water soak 10 mins, temps at 70 (Room temp). Germ rate: 100% (10/10)
3. Maxsea rinse, sowed on peat/perlite, temps 85*F, (LL minitank). Germ rate: 40% (4/10)
You make your own conclusion