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Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:18 am
by Bradari
how do i propagate cephs roots?
All i have left of my hope are 2 healthyish looking roots. so im gona try my luck at getting something to happen with them

so best way to do it?

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:39 pm
by benastyy
I got some root hormones (great white) I bought one but they send me two of them, it's a 1oz. Bottle that might help... Dm me for more info if your interested


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Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:22 pm
by Leathal_Traps
Actually great white is not a root hormone. It is a mixture of beneficial bacteria and fungi that form a Mycorrhizal relationship.

Cephalotus can not grow from roots, but they can grow back from rhizomes.

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:33 pm
by benastyy
That's what I meant. Lol


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Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:27 am
by Bradari
This is all that's left of hope. I have put her pot outside with the vft's will leave her there keep her watered and maybe with some luck she might come back.
I have read many places that cephs can grow from root cuttings? And do come back from their roots.
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Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:51 am
by partisangardener
It’s a often told myth that you can’t grow Cephalotus from root cuttings.
http://s157.photobucket.com/user/cpphot ... 1.jpg.html

A picture says more than often repeated wrong information.
Live Sphagnum ist best for the start.

Good luck with hope.
Greetings axel

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:34 pm
by Leathal_Traps
partisangardener wrote:It’s a often told myth that you can’t grow Cephalotus from root cuttings.
What you pictured is not a root cutting, it is a rhizome cutting. In the picture you can even see the root coming out of the rhizome, and that is not where the plants are growing from.

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:45 pm
by HeliamphoraWalnut
Leathal traps. than how come i propagated about 5 cephs from root cuttings? Have you done it? :? It even says you can in the savage garden.

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:07 am
by SFLguy
Image
That it does

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:50 am
by partisangardener
We had this discussion here too. This is clearly a root. Rhizomes are not thicker roots, what the stuff in the picture from Bradari is. They have scaly structures which are special leafs usually without green color(after they died they have a papery structure or leave in the end scars) The rhizome with Cephalotus is usually white to light brown with aging in color . Roots brown with a significant structure.
A root may grow rhizomes out of it, but never changes while thickenig into a rhizome.

Fastest is in a box with live Sphagnum with artificial lighting (at least after a small sprout has emerged).
Like this
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.ph ... opic=56771

Though it’s in this case, pitchers which are used for propagation. Not that somebody wants to say this is no root.;)

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:44 am
by Bradari
HeliamphoraWalnut wrote:Leathal traps. than how come i propagated about 5 cephs from root cuttings? Have you done it? :? It even says you can in the savage garden.
Please tell me the best way to propagate them?
i have the pot outside in full sun with my VFT's at the moment, kepping moist but not to wet or dry. should i just stick to that?

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:48 am
by Bradari
partisangardener wrote:We had this discussion here too. This is clearly a root. Rhizomes are not thicker roots, what the stuff in the picture from Brdari is. They have scaly structures which are special leafs usually without green color(after they died they have a papery structure or leave in the end scars) The rhizome with Cephalotus is usually white to light brown with aging in color . Roots brown with a significant structure.
A root may grow rhizomes out of it, but never changes while thickenig into a rhizome.

Fastest is in a box with live Sphagnum with artificial lighting (at least after a small sprout has emerged).
Like this
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.ph ... opic=56771

Though it’s in this case, pitchers which are used for propagation. Not that somebody wants to say this is no root.;)

So im confused do i have roots or a rhizome?
i have the pot outside in full sun keeping moist but not to wet or dry. should i be doing something different? i dont have spag now and i dont want to uproot it again. wanted to add that there is no part of it above soil at the moment would that be an issue? should i put it in the window rather that gets 5 hours of sun a day?

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:10 pm
by partisangardener
It is biological a root. Just like the one I showed in the link. .
The way I showed is surly faster as the way you try it. But it is your Cephalotus und always handling it again is the worst method.
You will read a lot of advice which are basically a myth. If somebody grows them with success for many years his method might not be bad, but usually there are very successful growers which do all the no-go stuff and succeed. So the explanation for success is very often faulty.

In this picture are roots and rhizomes
http://www.foxoles.dsl.pipex.com/Resour ... 1AF4B9.jpg
The reddish part is a root the lighter parts with triangular scaly dead leafs at the outside is the rhizomepart.
A carrot is a root, ginger is a rhizome. Both store energy for the plant.

@ lethal traps the thin root grows out of the thick root. Thats what usually thin roots do. It can grow out of a rhizome too and after some time it will be a thick root like the one shown. A thin root has normally not enough energy to grow a new rhizome, so a thick root is better. Even carrots habe thin roots in the ground.;)

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:45 pm
by benastyy
SFLguy wrote:Image
That it does

Says rhizome and roots, not just roots

Re: Cephalotus root Propagation

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:47 pm
by SFLguy
benastyy wrote:
SFLguy wrote:Image
That it does

Says rhizome and roots, not just roots
And continues on to say that you can cut them into 1 or 2 inch segments and plant them. If it couldn't be just the root, Peter would've clarified that