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Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:08 pm
by DesertLlama
Thanks! I have more seedlings than I have room for so I might consider doing a sale/trade once they get bigger and (hopefully) more interesting.

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:23 am
by DesertLlama
I think I got the characteristics I was hoping for! There were a few of the cross seeds I tossed into one of my pots with some 'Big Pink' x self seeds. I noticed this guy was distinguished by some of the 'Big Pink' seedlings by its wider petioles and leaf lamina while keeping that striking red color. You can see the comparison here. I hope it maintains these traits into maturity.
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Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am
by Aquis31
They are really beautiful my friend, :D congratulations on the success, continue to post photos of the plant development, I am really looking forward to this outcome, good luck :)

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:24 am
by sanguinearocks101
Congratulations, hopefully if it maintains it’s color you can register it as a cultivar.

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:02 pm
by DesertLlama
Aquis31 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:49 am They are really beautiful my friend, :D congratulations on the success, continue to post photos of the plant development, I am really looking forward to this outcome, good luck :)
Thanks! Glad you were able to get some of the seeds yourself. Happy growing.

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:57 pm
by Matt
Well done and congratulations!

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:17 pm
by Aquis31
Any updates my friend ?? I'm waiting for my macro lenses to arrive to take photos of your hybrid's seeds

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:35 pm
by Aquis31
Some of the germinations of your hybrid :)

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:12 pm
by Aquis31
My macro lenses arrived, here are some germinations of the Capensis hybrid

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:13 pm
by DesertLlama
Congrats on your seedlings! Mine have seen quite a bit of growth in the last few months. The first one is my largest and appears to have a pretty typical capensis appearance. It may have a large leaf lamina/petiole length ratio that hopefully persists as it matures but not holding my breath. The width of the leaves does appear slightly wider than in the 'Big Pink' parent but is nowhere close to 'Hercules'. The second set of photos show the redder seedlings which have taken up much more narrow leaf lamina and petiole that are starkly different from their first few leaves seen toward the bottom of the pic. I'm not a geneticist by any means but wonder if the pigment and leaf morphology genes are found close together on the same chromosome, making them more likely to be inherited together. It may also be that the allele for narrow leaves is dominant to the one for wider ones.
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Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 pm
by Aquis31
Thanks for posting updated photos, the plants are beautiful, although I was looking forward to seeing a red Hercules, but they are still magnificent plants

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:59 am
by DesertLlama
Aquis31 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 pm Thanks for posting updated photos, the plants are beautiful, although I was looking forward to seeing a red Hercules, but they are still magnificent plants
I had hoped so too. The genes vary from seedling to seedling so maybe you'll have better luck than I did!

Re: Attempting Hybridization

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:17 pm
by Tarzanus
The thing is, some genes can not express in first generation, so it's best to either self-pollinate it, or strengthen the target feature by pollination using red variety.
Good work!