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Cascade Carnivores sent me a notification and these two came in stock and I couldn't resist.



The two babies next to jaumavensis were babies that were on the parent plant! There's at least 1 more that was too small for me to separate left on it.

I'm really really pleased with all the plants I've gotten from Ron at CC. The cyclosecta I got last month (which was close to flowering on arrival) ended up dividing since I got it as well.

on arrival

Today

Any advice on whether I'm keeping this one wet enough?

I'm still trying to figure out the proper amount of water for my pings that are not completely succulent and not completely carnivorous.

My original three (laueana, pirouette, Weser) which are in carnivorous state look great, albeit green. I've noticed a larger leaf size since I started feeding crushed betta food.



I welcome any suggestions on what o can improve.

Crystal
grow list: http://www.flytrapcare.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=32983

We must've ordered from the same batch of jaumavensis

What growing media are you using? I just got mines today.

erikHIplants wrote:We must've ordered from the same batch of jaumavensis

What growing media are you using? I just got mines today.

I just replied to your post as well.

I'm using a 50/50 mix of turface and this sand in #2/12 sizing http://www.cemexusa.com/ProductsService ... Sands.aspx

It's interesting because the msds for the sand indicates that it is not entirely silica. Other elements such as iron oxide appear to be in it. So I'll have to see if that is a benefit or not in a few months or so. But I don't expect it to be a problem since some people successfully grow pings in lava rock.

These are looking lovely, you're doing a great job with them!! If you want them to go succulent, just stop feeding and watering them and they should take care of the rest on their own. The cyclosecta looks so much better now as well, well done!

Grey wrote:These are looking lovely, you're doing a great job with them!! If you want them to go succulent, just stop feeding and watering them and they should take care of the rest on their own. The cyclosecta looks so much better now as well, well done!

Grey, can you advise on why these pings that I have (cyclosecta and the newly arrived florian and jaumavensis) don't make any mucus? It is due to the species of the plant or is it because I am keeping them too dry?

I think I'm having trouble identifying carnivorous vs winter/succulent form vs the in-between form that my cyclosecta appears to be in?

If new leaves are dewy and large,then they are carnivorous. If new leaves are small and dewless, then its succulent.

coffeenflowers wrote:Grey, can you advise on why these pings that I have (cyclosecta and the newly arrived florian and jaumavensis) don't make any mucus? It is due to the species of the plant or is it because I am keeping them too dry?

Mexican Pinguicula tend to stop producing mucus after large changes in their environment (particularly when it comes to humidity); they will adapt and start producing mucus as long as they are in their summer/carnivorous growth.

coffeenflowers wrote:I think I'm having trouble identifying carnivorous vs winter/succulent form vs the in-between form that my cyclosecta appears to be in?

The cyclosecta is definitely transitioning into the succulent state, so you won't need to water it quite as much. Carnivorous leaves are, as Jds said, often larger and actively producing mucus (unless they are acclimatising to a change in environment), they also tend to have a "lip" around the edge of the leaf, almost like a very shallow spoon. Using the photo of the flowering cyclosecta as an example, the oldest leaves (touching the "soil") have this lip, although it has lost some of its shape due to the age of the leaves, whereas the newest leaf growth does not.

I used to have a slideshow on my website of my P. 'Weser' going into its succulent state. I can see if I can find any of the photos and show you a comparison, if that'd be helpful.

Ok, so some times I still feel confused. So here's an example and hopefully someone can help me understand the different leaf types:

Here are a few pictures of P. esseriana Carnivore Culture's website. (Sorry, hope it's not breaking any rules to link--I just want to show the pictures as an example). http://carnivoreculture.com/orderdetails.php?id=9

Picture 1=carnivorous
picture 2= succulent
picture 4=still carnivorous? But it looks different than the first picture.

coffeenflowers wrote:Ok, so some times I still feel confused. So here's an example and hopefully someone can help me understand the different leaf types:

Here are a few pictures of P. esseriana Carnivore Culture's website. (Sorry, hope it's not breaking any rules to link--I just want to show the pictures as an example). http://carnivoreculture.com/orderdetails.php?id=9

Picture 1=carnivorous
picture 2= succulent
picture 4=still carnivorous? But it looks different than the first picture.

I would guess, they arent small and succulent looking, they look bigger than the first picture.

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coffeenflowers wrote:Ok, so some times I still feel confused. So here's an example and hopefully someone can help me understand the different leaf types:

Here are a few pictures of P. esseriana Carnivore Culture's website. (Sorry, hope it's not breaking any rules to link--I just want to show the pictures as an example). http://carnivoreculture.com/orderdetails.php?id=9

Picture 1=carnivorous
picture 2= succulent
picture 4=still carnivorous? But it looks different than the first picture.

The reason the leaves look different is because they are picturing different clones of esseriana, which is a rather variable species. Yes, in the second picture, newer, paler leaves are the succulent leaves.

Benurmanii wrote:

coffeenflowers wrote:Ok, so some times I still feel confused. So here's an example and hopefully someone can help me understand the different leaf types:

Here are a few pictures of P. esseriana Carnivore Culture's website. (Sorry, hope it's not breaking any rules to link--I just want to show the pictures as an example). http://carnivoreculture.com/orderdetails.php?id=9

Picture 1=carnivorous
picture 2= succulent
picture 4=still carnivorous? But it looks different than the first picture.

The reason the leaves look different is because they are picturing different clones of esseriana, which is a rather variable species. Yes, in the second picture, newer, paler leaves are the succulent leaves.

So if you have a plant that looks like picture 4. Will it ever look like picture 1? Or the opposite?

coffeenflowers wrote:

Benurmanii wrote:

coffeenflowers wrote:Ok, so some times I still feel confused. So here's an example and hopefully someone can help me understand the different leaf types:

Here are a few pictures of P. esseriana Carnivore Culture's website. (Sorry, hope it's not breaking any rules to link--I just want to show the pictures as an example). http://carnivoreculture.com/orderdetails.php?id=9

Picture 1=carnivorous
picture 2= succulent
picture 4=still carnivorous? But it looks different than the first picture.

The reason the leaves look different is because they are picturing different clones of esseriana, which is a rather variable species. Yes, in the second picture, newer, paler leaves are the succulent leaves.

So if you have a plant that looks like picture 4. Will it ever look like picture 1? Or the opposite?

No, unfortunately. Your plant may get more color depending on how much light it is getting right now, but the plants pictured are clearly geneticallyl different individuals.