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Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:28 pm
by blucksy
My nepenthes Rajah had this today. Is this basal?
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:34 pm
by Benurmanii
Yes. It seems really stemmy, which is odd, but at least you have a secondary point for backup.
I know people are sticklers for this: I think a basal shoot comes from the soil, while a growth point emerging from the stem above ground is an auxiliary shoot, lr something like that.
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:51 pm
by Hungry Plants
It's a new leaf
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:04 am
by blucksy
Hungry Plants wrote:It's a new leaf
You're looking in the wrong place look below
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:04 am
by blucksy
Benurmanii wrote:Yes. It seems really stemmy, which is odd, but at least you have a secondary point for backup.
I know people are sticklers for this: I think a basal shoot comes from the soil, while a growth point emerging from the stem above ground is an auxiliary shoot, lr something like that.
Weird I thought it was the opposite
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:16 am
by Smooter80
Some of my Neps put out new leaves from the older part of the stem. Bical makes a ton of them. I don't think you can call them basals. I think this kind of new growth would be considered a basal.
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:11 am
by Hungry Plants
blucksy wrote:Hungry Plants wrote:It's a new leaf
You're looking in the wrong place look below
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Ok I see it now sorry
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:48 am
by Adelaide
Babies having babies these days, smh...
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:13 am
by Smooter80
Adelaide wrote:Babies having babies these days, smh...
Right? It's a palawanensis and I have several that already have basals. I don't know if it's typical for the species or just the clone.
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 am
by Leathal_Traps
Smooter80 wrote:Adelaide wrote:Babies having babies these days, smh...
Right? It's a palawanensis and I have several that already have basals. I don't know if it's typical for the species or just the clone.
Or tissue culture
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:16 am
by Smooter80
Could be LT.
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:25 am
by blucksy
Adelaide wrote:Babies having babies these days, smh...
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Hahahahaha
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:16 pm
by Bhart90
Adelaide wrote:Babies having babies these days, smh...
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Haha, it's a new generation these days ad...
Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:54 pm
by Seymour_
So will the new growth have its own root system. I am new to neps. I have a couple but i do not have basals or additional growth points on any of my plants.
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Re: Is this a basal shoot?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:38 pm
by Adelaide
*Disclaimer, this is based off my experience and research with neps but others may have found something different or have different experiences.*
Basal shoots are growths off the BASE (hence the name) of the plant stalk (not sure if that's the right term for neps). Sometimes they will pop off easily (or can be cut) and can start putting down their own roots - though removing basals is generally not the preferred route for propagating nepenthes. To my knowledge only very vigorous species are propagated with basals as there is a higher risk of losing one or both pieces by messing with the plant at the base. Most people propagate neps by taking cuttings of the stalk from the top down and cutting vines from growth points originating from higher up on the main stalk (again not at the base).
Basal buds on N. Sanguinea
N. Sanguinea basal being rooted
Point where popped off base
Hope this helps.
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